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Copying from AutoCAD 2022 to older versions inserts OLE

denis.liutov
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Copying from AutoCAD 2022 to older versions inserts OLE

denis.liutov
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Hi!

Is there a way to input stuff into older versions from AutoCAD 2022 with out turning it to OLE image?

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Thx!

 

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pendean
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Why are you copy/pasting from one autocad version to another if I may ask? That's not how it's done.
Why not just open the DWG file in the older version? Use SAVEAS to knock files down, or DWGCONVERT command to knock files down even further/older if needed.

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denis.liutov
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It is how it's done, if I work with different versions at work: AutoTurn as a part of AutoCAD 2020 and we are working in AutoCAD 2022 LT. 

And the file is indeed saved as 2013 LT. But I want to copy lines from opened AutoCAD 2022 LT to opened AutoCAD 2020.

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pendean
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Change your workflow, you're just creating issues that are totally avoidable.

LT2022 can open AutoCAD2020 files just fine, no extra effort needed. OPEN command.
AutOCAD2020 can open LT2022 files just fine, no extra effort needed. OPEN command.
Both can open 2013DWG file formats, and can save back down to it.

Open your file(s) in R2020 (or LT2022) and copy/paste between the DWG files in the one program. Then use SAVEAS to ensure your 2013DWG file format is maintained.

AUTOTURN is a 3rd party tool and may be creating content that is not compatible with programs that is not loaded perhaps? Why not ask them for support with the issue if the real problem is LT does not like their content ,here is the link https://www.transoftsolutions.com/technical-support/

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denis.liutov
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I cannot see, how keeping open my main drawing in a LT22 and opening additional drawing in ACAD20, where I want to copy stuff later during the work, is harder, then opening and reopening files in different versions just to copy 5 polylines. Saving in older format and not using the VT isn't the solution as well. The problem is compatibility between different versions, that made something do not work anymore. VT doesn't have to do anything with it, as the issue keeps appearing without turning on VT.

 

My question was, why all of a sudden I cannot copy and paste between versions. LT20 to ACAD 20 was fine, LT20 to ACAD 18 was fine. And now after an upgrade it is broken. Why is it an issue now, when it wasn't before? Is it a bug? Can I fix it? Those are the questions I am asking. And I'm really not looking for solution "just open in XYZ version".

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pendean
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Either open both files in LT2022, or open both files in R2020, then copy/paste between them.

One more time: there is no reason at all or open another variant of AutoCAD just to copy/paste between them. None.

If you used to do it then you lucked out or something changed: no one here is Autodesk, please log into your account page to start support ticket and ask them why (be aware they are going to recommend the same fix I do as well) https://manage.autodesk.com/home/ (look for the ? icon to start, opt for the call-back option when you get to that page).

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jggerth
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When you open a drawing in a current version of AutoCAD, the drawing is in the current version .. Saving back to a lower version (2013) creates a 2013 format version of the file, but while in memory it's always the current version.

 

I don't have 2022 running on this machine at the moment, but did try copy-paste between 2021 and 2014, using simple linework.  And got similar results, with an extra session of 2021 opening temporarily and giving me a useless OLE object (not even the lines showed up).

 

workaround :  WBlock the linework you want to copy, and insert as a block into the destination drawing.  You can save the Wblock as a 2013 format if you like that format. and it works between  2020 and 2022

 

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RobDraw
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This is not unexpected. Objects or features from newer versions may not be compatible with older versions. It's been that way forever. If you are having these compatibility issues, the files need to be converted to the older version using export. A save as only changes the format of the file. It does not convert newer objects or features.

 

The choice is yours. Deal with a few extra steps to make the objects compatible or use the version that is appropriate for your workflow.


Rob

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Alfred.NESWADBA
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Hi,

 

first at all, copying objects between different versions of AutoCAD is definitely not the way to go.

As already mentioned, open both drawings in the same version of AutoCAD to use copy and paste.

Another method could be to run command _WBLOCK to export your polylines to a temporary dwg-file and then use command _INSERT to insert this file in the older AutoCAD release.

 

>> why all of a sudden I cannot copy and paste between versions.

>> LT20 to ACAD 20 was fine, LT20 to ACAD 18 was fine. And now

>> after an upgrade it is broken. Why is it an issue now, when it

>> wasn't before? 

However .. I have tried with new dwg-files without having any application running to copy objects (tested lines and polylines) from 2022 to 2020 ... working well (using command _COPYBASE and _PASTECLIP).

If that does not work for you then it might depend on the difference of full AutoCAD to AutoCAD LT (which I can't test as I don't have LT) or you have objects or settings in your drawing which block this copy and paste. And as you are working with applications this could be the source of your issue.

 

Anyway, to stay clean with your drawings please use the suggestions you already got (same AutoCAD version or WBLOCK ==> INSERT).

 

- alfred -

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semi
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It is if you are working in Autodesk Structural Detailing of which the last version is 2015.

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RSomppi
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@semi wrote:

It is if you are working in Autodesk Structural Detailing of which the last version is 2015.


There are no circumstances where "it is". While it may work sometimes, it is extremely likely to fail.

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semi
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One can always insert as an XRef and then bind the drawing into the file.

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RobDraw
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@semi wrote:

One can always insert as an XRef and then bind the drawing into the file.


That doesn't guarantee success at all. Not all files can be binded.


Rob

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RCPConsultants
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I do love how the Experts tell us we shouldnt need to do something - sometimes you just want an answer not more questions.
Ive recently been having same issue as OP copying from full autocad 2019 to LT 2018. Only reason is I had run a lisp routine within a single copy of full autocad used in a small office, where we run LT for day to day use.  

The only solution I found was to save the lines I wanted in 2019 then insert that file as a block to LT and explode.

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RobDraw
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Your solution eliminates the need to copy/paste which is the source of the problem. 


Rob

Drafting is a breeze and Revit doesn't always work the way you think it should.
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