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Copy paste current model into new model sheet

pmc288
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Copy paste current model into new model sheet

pmc288
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self learner and i believe this question is beneath anyone who has studied but here goes;

 

I have built a drawing and want to leave this and work on the floors, ground, 1st etc...

 

I would like to copy the ground, 1st, 2nd, 3rd onto a new model sheet to work on further advanced and have this as a separate save file, illustrated in attachment.

 

I have tried selecting areas opened a new model sheet but there is no paste function, I've tried copying the layers and paste but that doesn't appear either?

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beyoungjr
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Hi,

You appear to be getting views but no replies.  Probably because of your unstudied approach.  Users here are eager to help but you might do well to pick up a textbook that appeals to you or follow some online tutorials for a while.  This will get you familiar with proper terminology for AutoCAD software.

 

That said, I will attempt to frame a few basics for you...

Your jpg image appears to show that you wish to copy the plan views into another drawing (you refer to this as "model sheet".  The tabs above the drawing area are drawing files and the tabs below the drawing area are for Model Space and Layouts.

The drawing you illustrate appears to be for a single building project.  You would do well to keep the project in a single drawing file at this stage of your learning and use.  In order to show each floor on a separate sheet you will create Layouts and Viewports that focus on desired data.

I'm not sure what template you are starting with so I will guess that you only have a single layout tab next to the Model tab at the bottom of your drawing area?  If this is correct you can click on that tab and observe that a single Viewport exists.  This Viewport may or may not show details, depending on the size of your Model Space objects and the scale setting for the Viewport.

If you double click inside of the Viewport it will activate and you can zoom in or out on desired objects from Model Space.  You can also work on your Model Space objects but I try to emphasize that design work is best done in Model Space on the Model tab.

When active in the viewport you can Pan and Zoom to your desired objects, floorplan, or elevation and then you can set the scale of the viewport by clicking the scale list near the bottom right.

 

Keeping your Model Space designs for floorplans and elevations aligned is a good practice but be sure to provide enough distance between these designs so that you can have only the desired view in your viewports.

 

Create new layouts and viewports as desired and work those bottom tabs instead of creating individual drawing files for your project.

 

I hope this helps you in your pursuits.

Blaine

 


Blaine Young
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Thank you for your input Blaine, i really do appreciate it.

 

Ive been following this youtuber: Tim Callinan i find Tim very helpful and frankly enjoyable to watch with his personality but not necessarily drawings i want to pursue such as drawing flanges and cogs.  I already have limited learning time and tend to learn applications on the fly the hard way fumbling through.

 

I think my error was that when i created the new model to copy paste i didn't put in perimeters such as "Units" from the original worksheet.  It was just the standard ISO without setting the precision...i think?

 

Anyway, i stopped looking at the ribbon and stopped right clicking and went to the utmost basics;

highlight, control C, new drawing, control V

 

Thank you for your time.

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I thought that's what you were asking but honestly copy & paste sounded like too easy of an answer lol. The copy command will not help you here. but you have already figured out that the windows command copy still works.

There are a few ways to do this though for example you can also run the command COPYBASE after selecting your objects it will let you pick a base point for the copy. when you go into your new model space you can ctrl+v and it will put the cursor on your selected base point. Basically the use of this is to put it in the exact same spot on another window. Pick 0,0 as a copy base point and when pasting use 0,0 as the insert point and it will appear in the same spot in your new window. This is useful when reusing viewports too because they are coordinate based.

tboehler
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Doing a "SAVEAS" may be the easy way to get what you want.  Creates a new file - then erase what you don't need.

You might want to look into xref's.  

gotphish001
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You can also select everything you want to put in a new file and then use command WBLOCK. It will give you a pop up dialog that you should be able to figure out. It will save everything selected to a new file. It makes of copy of it so it will leave it in your other drawing also. You can always delete it out of there, but since you are new really make sure you have it in the other file and know where you put that file before pulling the trigger on the delete. Short version is WBLOCK makes a new dwg file of what you select. 

 

Tip: built in help is very good to look at to figure out commands and variables. Usually not so good at trying to figure out a process or steps to do something. Those I'd look up on Youtube as you said you were doing or come to the forums. Youtube is great but if you don't really know exactly what you are looking for it's not so good. Start with Help and then to answer your specific questions raised from there search youtube for how to videos on exact topics. 



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beyoungjr
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Lots of good advice about copy/paste techniques as well as saveas to create a new drawing and simply erase what you don't want carrying forward.  The saveas option will carry every setting from one drawing to the next.

 

That said, I hope I previously shed a little light on a different workflow for you.

I want you to know that the precision setting for Units in AutoCAD has no impact on the entities that you copy into any drawing.  The precision setting simply dictates what you see on screen in properties and visual feedback.  The actual  setting for controlling distance input is DWGUNITS.  This setting is the basis for Imperial units in acad.dwt template vs Metric units in acadiso.dwt template files.  There are of course several other settings for text and dimensions that are controlled in those templates.  Some brief info about DWGUNITS >here<.

 

>Here< is a nice read on Autodesk support for Metric vs Imperial Settings for AutoCAD.

 

Redshift also provides a short but pointed article on Imperial vs Metric >here<.

 

All good study and worthy of self-study.

 

Cheers,

Blaine

 


Blaine Young
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Is it me or have the developers missed a simple extension on the right click after highlight "paste on new drawing"?

 

It is strange that using a short cut without any reference on the ribbon or right click actually does this function?

 

They need to adopt something similar to Excel, copy> new work sheet.

 

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Just wanted to finish off this thread for all the beginners that may come across this thread and decide to follow the copy paste on new worksheet.

Attached is an illustration that shows if you have measurements and want to transfer this over using the highlight> CTRL+C> new sheet> CTRL+V

You need to configure the DIMSTY to the original spec drawing otherwise your dimension measurement will not show as illustrated in the attachment.

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RobDraw
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A simple copy/paste is not adequate for the stated question. The "save as" workflow should be learned as a best practice for a number of reasons.


Rob

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The thing is Rob, the copy/paste solution was exactly what i wanted from the application and still don't understand why a function like this is left out of the application when it's something that is universal in many other applications?

 

If i wanted a master work space that held multiple designs and wanted to extract one of the designs to work on further or send to someone else i would need to dupe the original file then delete 99% and go through the the pain staking time consuming delete layer only to receive "The selected layer was not deleted. The following layers cannot be deleted: Layers 0 and def_points, The current layer, Layers containing objects, Xref-dependent layers"

 

I expect you'll advise why i can't delete the layer which contains "Doors" i built, but if i don't want it then let me delete it not have to;

If you are confident that there are no such objects, use the LAYDEL command to delete the layers:
  1. Enter LAYDEL on the command line.
  2. Click Name or enter N.
  3. Select the Layer and click OK to delete it

If a user wants this function then it should be included, it just surprises me that it's taken an absolute amateur beginner to flag this, but then again there is a special learning curve when self teaching and exploring ones needs rather then being guided through simulation text books and lead along a course.

 

Has this function ever been in any release of Autocad?

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RobDraw
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@pmc288 wrote:

The thing is Rob, the copy/paste solution was exactly what i wanted from the application and still don't understand why a function like this is left out of the application when it's something that is universal in many other applications?

 


It's not a function of any application. It's a function of the operating system and it has it's limitations. AutoCAD provides other ways of doing what you want in a more accurate way. Have you even considered WBlock?

 


@pmc288 wrote:

If i wanted a master work space that held multiple designs and wanted to extract one of the designs to work on further or send to someone else i would need to dupe the original file then delete 99% and go through the the pain staking time consuming delete layer only to receive "The selected layer was not deleted. The following layers cannot be deleted: Layers 0 and def_points, The current layer, Layers containing objects, Xref-dependent layers"

 

I expect you'll advise why i can't delete the layer which contains "Doors" i built, but if i don't want it then let me delete it not have to;

If you are confident that there are no such objects, use the LAYDEL command to delete the layers:
  1. Enter LAYDEL on the command line.
  2. Click Name or enter N.
  3. Select the Layer and click OK to delete it

The LAYDEL command deletes a layer AND everything on that layer.

 


@pmc288 wrote:

If a user wants this function [copy/paste] then it should be included, it just surprises me that it's taken an absolute amateur beginner to flag this, but then again there is a special learning curve when self teaching and exploring ones needs rather then being guided through simulation text books and lead along a course.

 

I don't know what you are talking about. It's been a function of AutoCAD and it has options. After copying, one can simply paste, paste as a block, or paste to original coordinates. It's great for light duty stuff. AutoCAD has a number of ways to do what you want. Copy/paste is not the tool for the job.

 

Don't be like other noobs that think their way is the way it should be done and argue up and down that it is the best way. Open up your mind and listen to other people.

 

BTW, bringing up those other issues to try and reinforce your argument is only getting you into a deeper hole. You should ask and listen before complaining about why AutoCAD doesn't work the way YOU think it should.


Rob

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WBlock is nice and ill adopt this as its exactly the same thing as Copy/Paste but in reverse.

 

I work on a Windows PC operating system why? because im lazy and i like to 1 click things, i pay Bill Gates to short cut everything in a seamless click.  I do not want to write code, work on a Linux or pick tea leaves from a plant to brew a cuppa.  I may be a newbie but i still want to petition the fact you can copy/paste using the CTRL+C and paste Using CTRL+V but not have the function of WBlock with a highlight>Right Click>Paste new drawing.

 

Don't get me wrong though, i do enjoy the "Type command function" but i like click better when it takes less energy.

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RobDraw
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The paste function in AutoCAD is quite versatile. I really don't know why you are so focused on the fact that it doesn't work the way you think it should which, honestly, I don't really understand.

 

Pasting has many functions in AutoCAD in addition to those I've mentioned, you can also scale and rotate as you are pasting. Here's one you might be interested in, Paste Special, which can be used for pasting non-AutoCAD type entities.

 

Good luck.

 

Rob out.


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So, here is my right click menu showing the basic copy/paste options. 

 

Paste.png


Rob

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Here it is in the ribbon, too.

 

Ribbon Paste.png


Rob

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