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Changing the “Precision” of “Linear Dimension” in the primary units...

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Changing the “Precision” of “Linear Dimension” in the primary units...

Anonymous
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I recently started experiencing an issue with my linear dimensions in Paper Space. I tried to adjust the Primary Units-Precision in the Properties to 1/16" because I needed it to be more precise than 1/4". Since trying to make this adjustment I have had continuous issues with the Dimensions changing from...for Example...5'-8" to 136'-0". This happens if I adjust anything in Model Space that is in a Viewport on the Layout. ALL of the dimensions on that specific layout will change. Any suggestions on how to fix this?

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john.vellek
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Hi @Anonymous,

I see that you are visiting as a new member to the AutoCAD forum. Welcome to the Autodesk Community!

 

 I'm sorry that you are having this dimension problem. It certainly sounds like something is getting scaled up by a large amount. Is it possible to attach a sample drawing that displays this behavior? I would like to examine the dimstyle and see if I can duplicate the problem on my side.

 

 

Please select the Accept as Solution button if my post solves your issue or answers your question.


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Anonymous
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Thank you for the quick response. What format would you like the file in?

 

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john.vellek
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Hi @Anonymous,

 

Attach the AutoCAD dwg file in the format you are currently using so I can see exactly what you see.


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Anonymous
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See the attached file. 

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dmfrazier
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I've had this happen with "trans-spatial" dimensions on layouts and have not been able to figure out what causes it.

 

The "quick and dirty" work-around is to find a dimension that is working correctly somewhere else and use MatchProps to kick the misbehaving one in the butt.

 

 

scot-65
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A guess here based on failing memory:

To paperspace dimension of modelspace objects, one
has to manipulate the DIMLFAC as well as DIMSCALE.
Both will be in relation to the viewport scaling.

To increase/decrease precision, one looks at DIMDEC.
Follow through with DIMRND.
As a hint, one will have to double (or more) the
precision due to the paperspace and the influence
DIMLFAC has on the dimension object.

When happy with the results, SAVE the dimension
style (with some sort of "PS" phrase in the name).

???

Scot-65
A gift of extraordinary Common Sense does not require an Acronym Suffix to be added to my given name.


john.vellek
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Hi @Anonymous,

 

I was going to do some testing such as using DIMREASSOCIATE but I discovered that your file has quite a bit of corruption in it. Audit found 43 errors and Purge is unable to completely remove objects such as DGN linetypes.

 

I suggest moving your data to a new file ASAP and then we can revisit this issue.


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dmfrazier
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"I suggest moving your data to a new file ASAP..."

 

Based on the file size (22+MB), I too suspected and confirmed the DGN Linetype "infestation". Unfortunately, moving the data to a new file will not resolve that, as the orphaned linetypes will go with the data and continue multiplying.  Depending on which version of AutoCAD the OP is using, the solution will vary.

For pre-2015, this article may help: http://cadpanacea.com/wp/?p=512, or search the forums for "DGN Linetype Bloat".

If the OP is running 2015 or newer, I believe the PURGE command has been modified to deal with these objects. 

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Anonymous
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Is there anything specific that might be causing the corruption within the file that I might avoid doing in the future? or are there a number of things that cause the corruption?

 

Currently working on moving the drawings to a new file....

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john.vellek
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Hi @Anonymous,

 

I am not sure what has caused the corruption but I  did see indications that there were some zero-length objects in your file. I suggest that you consider not putting so much into one file. I like to set up a base file, details in another, elevations in another, etc. Then a separate drawing for each layout that xrefs the titleblock and other drawings needed for just that one sheet.  This keeps drawing size smaller and quicker as well as helps with recovery if something goes wrong.

 

Please let me know how your new drawing behaves and if the dimension issue goes away.

 

 

Please select the Accept as Solution button if my post solves your issue or answers your question.


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john.vellek
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Hi @dmfrazier,

 

I found that even in current product, PURGE could not get rid of all the DGN and other custom linetypes.  By moving to a new file after a purge and then another AUDIT, I was able to get the file cleaner.


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dmfrazier
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Interesting...

 

Using 2018 here and running RECOVER on the 23MB drawing file uncovered only 3 errors, which were fixed.  The drawing contains nearly 398,000 objects, including 6144 blocks.

 

After running RECOVER, I had to PURGE-all 61 times (my previous record was 23) to remove all the purge-able stuff, most of which was the orphaned DGN linetypes.  After saving, the file size only went down about 50% to 10.6MB. (I expected more, so there may be some overly complex other "stuff" in there, probably in block definitions. Hatching may also be contributing.) I ran RECOVER on the purged and saved file and no errors were found.  The drawing now has about 161,000 objects. 

john.vellek
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Hi @Anonymous,

 

I am checking back to see if my post or others helped you with your problem. Please add a post with how you decide to proceed and your results so other Community members may benefit.

 

 

 

Please hit the Accept as Solution button if a post or posts solves your issue or answers your question.


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Anonymous
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Hi Everyone,

 

Thank you for all of the help. I actually end up creating a new .dwg file and copied and pasted what I needed into it per John's advice. Then I proceeded to set up the layouts and add the dimensions in the desired precision rather than trying to change it mid way. This seems to have solved the problem. I have another file that I am experiencing the same issues with, and I will do the same with that one as well. If I start to have issues again I will let you all know.

 

Best,

Maggie

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dmfrazier
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Just beware that if any of the drawings that you copy from have orphaned DGN Linetypes in them, they will be introduced back into the new DWG when you paste, and every time you do more copying and pasting, and even when creating new objects in the new DWG, they will multiply, re-producing the "bloated" drawing effect that you started with.