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Cannot delete 1:1 scale from Annotative block

bull504
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Cannot delete 1:1 scale from Annotative block

bull504
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Ever since upgrading to Autocad 2025, any annotative blocks that contain attributes that are inserted into a drawing always contain the 1:1 scale attached to them and it cannot be deleted. Example, the elevation callout below was inserted on a 3/4" scale but comes in with the 1:1 also. In previous versions it would only have the 3/4" scale attached. I cannot delete the 1:1 from the block. Anyone know what is going on? 

 

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-didier-
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Bonjour @bull504 

 

This is the normal behavior of the software.
AutoCAD needs this scale coefficient as it needs layer 0 and the line type "continuous".

This is the minimum, which cannot be purged

 

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cadffm
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Hi,

 

 

>>"was inserted on a 3/4" scale"

Do you mean "while 3/4" scale was active (CANNOSCALE) ?

 

>>"but comes in with the 1:1 also"

How do you insert the blockreference? Is it different if you are using CLASSICINSERT command (while CANNOSCALE is set to 3/4")

?

 

>>" I cannot delete the 1:1 from the block. "

Sounds impossible, please share a sample .dwg (with only one fresh insert), thx.

Sebastian

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cadffm
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@-didier- 

That's (near to) true, but we are talking about OBJECT SCALEs, not about the defined scale list in the file!

Sebastian

bull504
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@-didier- @cadffm 

Correct, I am specifically referring to the objects scales. I understand 1:1 is required for the drawing scale list. I am not trying to remove it from the drawing, just the object. Which is how I've usually done it for 10 years. How it is behaving now in the 2025 version is completely new. 

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bull504
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1) yes, while 3/4" was the active scale of CANNOSCALE

2)Block is inserted via a tool palette. Using the CLASSICINSERT command the block behaves appropriately as long as I edit the attributes to be non-annotative within the block

3) Attached drawing, Side note, this only affects blocks with attributes, it does not happen with other annotative objects such as dimensions. It's annoying because If I am working with 2 scales (3/4" and 1/2") when I change my CANNOSCALE accordingly, I can no longer read objects on the previous scale because they will default to 1:1 for anything not on the currently active CANNOSCALE

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AdamPJN3D
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I'm having the exact same issue. I'd love a solution. I recently updated to 2025, I never had this behaviour in my older version. The problem seems to be related to the palette and inserting blocks with text. Possibly annotative text styles.