Best practice for sketching on multiple planes

[Luke_Daniels]

Instead of drawing a back and right 2D view of the same object next to each other in 2D drafting workspace I would like to sketch them separately on their respective UCSs in (3D modelling workspace) a bit like a skeleton sketch with a view to 3D modelling parts later on. If I do this, what would be best practice to hide all the contents of back view when plotting the right view and visa versa without creating separate layers for each sketch?

[Luke_Daniels]

Instead of drawing a back and right 2D view of the same object next to each other in 2D drafting workspace I would like to sketch them separately on their respective UCSs in (3D modelling workspace) a bit like a skeleton sketch with a view to 3D modelling parts later on. If I do this, what would be best practice to hide all the contents of back view when plotting the right view and visa versa without creating separate layers for each sketch?

[paullimapa]

Assuming you’re drawing on the sides of a 3d solid when you plot with hide on the solid should hide all “the skeletons” behind it

[paullimapa]

Assuming you’re drawing on the sides of a 3d solid when you plot with hide on the solid should hide all “the skeletons” behind it

[Luke_Daniels]

I'm just sketching on the origin planes of front and left but with a view to hiding everything in 'left' when I create a viewport for 'front' before locking the viewport and hiding everything in 'front' when I create a 2nd viewport for 'left.'

[Luke_Daniels]

I'm just sketching on the origin planes of front and left but with a view to hiding everything in 'left' when I create a viewport for 'front' before locking the viewport and hiding everything in 'front' when I create a 2nd viewport for 'left.'

[paullimapa]

So if your method works keep using it

[paullimapa]

So if your method works keep using it

[Kent1Cooper]

DVIEW and the CLip option.  [Read about it in Help.]

[Kent1Cooper]

DVIEW and the CLip option.  [Read about it in Help.]

[paullimapa]

I think Dview clipping will only work if the entire elevation view is on the same plane.

But if the elevation plane shifts in & out and since there's no multiple clipping plane options then that would fail.

[paullimapa]

I think Dview clipping will only work if the entire elevation view is on the same plane.

But if the elevation plane shifts in & out and since there's no multiple clipping plane options then that would fail.

[Kent1Cooper]

I think this is very dependent on exactly what you mean by "sketch them separately on their respective UCSs."  If you do them as I was imagining, something like this, where the UCS icon is showing World coordinates and the contents were drawn on UCS planes for each of the Left and Front sides:

and if each side's content is pulled away from the common corner [where the UCS icon sits] a little, then when you're in a Viewport looking at the Left content, a DVIEW back CLipping plane just behind the Left-side content will mask off all the Front-side content [and also Rear-side and Right-side if you include those], and vice versa.  Each side can be isolated in that way.

But it depends on "on their respective UCSs" and "I'm just sketching on the origin planes" meaning all on a flat plane for each side -- maybe what you intend is different.  Can you post a sample?

[Kent1Cooper]

I think this is very dependent on exactly what you mean by "sketch them separately on their respective UCSs."  If you do them as I was imagining, something like this, where the UCS icon is showing World coordinates and the contents were drawn on UCS planes for each of the Left and Front sides:

and if each side's content is pulled away from the common corner [where the UCS icon sits] a little, then when you're in a Viewport looking at the Left content, a DVIEW back CLipping plane just behind the Left-side content will mask off all the Front-side content [and also Rear-side and Right-side if you include those], and vice versa.  Each side can be isolated in that way.

But it depends on "on their respective UCSs" and "I'm just sketching on the origin planes" meaning all on a flat plane for each side -- maybe what you intend is different.  Can you post a sample?

[paullimapa]

this is when it gets tricky

[paullimapa]

this is when it gets tricky

[Kent1Cooper]

True, but since the OP said they're not drawing on a 3D solid, but only sketching in 2D "with a view to 3D modelling parts later on," I don't think that's an issue.  But the possibility is why I asked for clarification and a sample.

[Kent1Cooper]

True, but since the OP said they're not drawing on a 3D solid, but only sketching in 2D "with a view to 3D modelling parts later on," I don't think that's an issue.  But the possibility is why I asked for clarification and a sample.

[Washingtonn]

You can draw 2D in 3D space and only show the views you want in separate viewports. Here is an example of 2D views in 3D modelspace which are then used to generate a 3D part.

orts. in a layout. 

[Washingtonn]

You can draw 2D in 3D space and only show the views you want in separate viewports. Here is an example of 2D views in 3D modelspace which are then used to generate a 3D part.

orts. in a layout. 

[leeminardi]

Create the front view on a layer called front, and the left view on a layer called left. Next create two viewports in paper space one for the front and one for the left. In the front viewport use the freeze in viewport option to freeze the left layer and vice versa for the left viewport.

[leeminardi]

Create the front view on a layer called front, and the left view on a layer called left. Next create two viewports in paper space one for the front and one for the left. In the front viewport use the freeze in viewport option to freeze the left layer and vice versa for the left viewport.

[Luke_Daniels]

But won't this mean I need to have all my continuous, hidden and centre lines on this single assigned layer? I think I can use the VP freeze suggestion but for some kind of 'by plane' filtering option perhaps? though I can't think how this might work.

Here are my xrefs attached to the relevant front and top planes. I plan to create a 2d sketch on each of them hiding one to create the others viewport for annotation once all the drawing is done.

cheers

Luke

[Luke_Daniels]

But won't this mean I need to have all my continuous, hidden and centre lines on this single assigned layer? I think I can use the VP freeze suggestion but for some kind of 'by plane' filtering option perhaps? though I can't think how this might work.

Here are my xrefs attached to the relevant front and top planes. I plan to create a 2d sketch on each of them hiding one to create the others viewport for annotation once all the drawing is done.

cheers

Luke

[Luke_Daniels]

Hi Kent,

I'm sketching on three original planes front, top and right but all sharing a common origin point and therefore z axis. This is so I can extrude different parts of each sketch at a later stage. But for now I just want to create a discreet viewport for each in layout mode and annotate them as if there were spread out on a single page. DVIEW does sound like the way to go if I just consider each of the planes involved to be a section of a 3d model. Though I've not tried this approach before and am unsure of it ultimately. Screenshot below show front and top planes only with respective xrefs only being used as guides. It's a lateral brackets for a bridge abutment.

[Luke_Daniels]

Hi Kent,

I'm sketching on three original planes front, top and right but all sharing a common origin point and therefore z axis. This is so I can extrude different parts of each sketch at a later stage. But for now I just want to create a discreet viewport for each in layout mode and annotate them as if there were spread out on a single page. DVIEW does sound like the way to go if I just consider each of the planes involved to be a section of a 3d model. Though I've not tried this approach before and am unsure of it ultimately. Screenshot below show front and top planes only with respective xrefs only being used as guides. It's a lateral brackets for a bridge abutment.

[Luke_Daniels]

Hi Washinton,

This look really interesting, do you know if there are any clips on youtube that could walk me through the process?

cheers

Luke

[Luke_Daniels]

Hi Washinton,

This look really interesting, do you know if there are any clips on youtube that could walk me through the process?

cheers

Luke

[Washingtonn]

best to do a search for "Orthographic Projection" or get a book on Technical drawing, Engineering drawing, or Descriptive Geometry

[Washingtonn]

best to do a search for "Orthographic Projection" or get a book on Technical drawing, Engineering drawing, or Descriptive Geometry