Anyone happy with cursor lag in a virtual desktop setup for acad?

[JamesMaeding]

I did a couple demos with vendors, where they have acad set up on a remote machine on fast cloud servers.

These are not beginner vendors, but pro's offering top notch setups.

The idea is you run acad on the same servers, or very close, as your data, so the files load and save fast, no matter where you run the remote desktop from.

I'm sure every CAD manager has thought about this, but I hesitate to post to that group since its not got the following this one does.

Anyway, in the demos, in a blank drawing, with various dynamic input stuff off, the cursor still has a fair amount of lag.

It's about double what I would consider even workable for production people that have used cad for a year or two on desktop. That is a complete fail, I could not recommend such a setup, my cad people would freak out.

Has anyone found the cursor speed of a cloud acad setup to be at least tolerable for 8 hours a day cad operating?

I don't care about medium level use opinions, of course people just viewing files can deal with it. Its the core production opinions I'm wondering about.

thx

[rkmcswain]

I have been experimenting with this for years and years and have not found an acceptable solution until very recently. Cursor delay was always the main complaint, among others. 

The solution that Autodesk uses at AU is very good also, but probably not in the budget for many companies.

[JamesMaeding]

@rkmcswain 

Thanks for your reply. Your answer carries weight for sure.

The adesk solution you mentioned, does that have a name I can look into, or is that something custom they only do internally?

thx

[rkmcswain]

I thought Autodesk was using Frame at AU. Not 100% sure of that though.

[JamesMaeding]

um, reporting your post to admin.

Do not post general sales plugs if you are not offering anything useful to the conversation.

On top of that, why would people choose your services if you are not even familiar with how you should behave on a technical forum?

[RobDraw]

Still can't resist belittling people in your posts, I see.

Where's the Autodesk bashing? Did I miss it?

[JamesMaeding]

I have an idea @RobDraw , how about you hire them and tell us how they offered such great service.

[Anonymous]

Sure! Apologies I won't do that now!

[Anonymous]

@JamesMaeding 

@RobDraw 

Gentlemen...  points made.  Back on topic, shall we?

[RobDraw]

Little late. @JamesMaeding already showed us that he can't ask a simple, yet dated, question without being condescending and bashing Autodesk. I was done.

Thanks for stirring the pot.

[JamesMaeding]

@Anonymous 

Great, but we don't want you to just go away.

If you explain a bit about your experience with cursor lag, its the perfect way to advertise your company. Do the plug at the end, and we love it.

The generic plug statement alone is not good for your cause though.

Ignore Robdraw's posts. How the admin let's those go is beyond me.

Note that pure trolling is a level below pure solicitation so at least you have that 🙂

[jefflambert9091]

We are experimenting with this now. Been testing some different jobs and functions in C3D.  The first thing I noticed was the curser lag. We have tweaked a few things and its getting better. Our first step is to try it from home.  Anything to get off the VPN. Like everything in the computer world just have to figure it all out.  

[JamesMaeding]

@jefflambert9091 

Hmm, I don't think the compromise should be on the lag issue. That really makes drawing miserable. We fight enough against computer input systems shredding our tendons, the lag is too much for every cad operator I have shown it too, no matter my opinion.

I must say I am totally for remote program/data setups. I'm not worried about security or internet availability. Its all about performance.

The guys that do remote surgery must have the same issue. That stuff is amazing.

[RobDraw]

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@JamesMaeding wrote:

Ignore Robdraw's posts. How the admin let's those go is beyond me.

Note that pure trolling is a level below pure solicitation so at least you have that 🙂

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I'm just pointing out facts. Not sure how that could be considered trolling when you get away with your statements about Autodesk and it's users.

[JamesMaeding]

@w62534410 

Your reply is kind of odd. Of course the cursor lag caught your attention, this thread is exactly that subject.

Tell me something that shows this is not an AI generated reply.

This statement of "In the world of computers, everything has to be figured out somehow." is dead wrong.

Some things do not get figured out, and until they are, they are not.

[elandis6Q9Z8]

Did you ever find a solution to this problem? 

[JamesMaeding]

@kitglobalgrowth 

No, it has never been solved. I would still say it is a really bad sign if people say their remote setup is good enough. None are close.

I'm not talking about remote files, you just wait a bit for those to load, this is running acad on a remote machine.

I think some people have never seen a seasoned cad operator where you are inputting commands and clicks faster than an observer can track.

Now, if you use the ribbon or toolbars for common commands, do anything. I recommend running acad for mac on a satellite headed for mars if the ribbon rules your world.

[RSomppi]

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@kitglobalgrowth wrote:

Has anyone here found a setup that actually works without any delay?

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Ditch the remote desktop. Download and edit files locally. When done upload to original location.

This workflow can require some file management standards if more than one person may be editing these files. The downloaded files need to be marked or hidden in some fashion to prevent others from opening and editing them.

[JamesMaeding]

@RSomppi 

Preaching to the choir on that one! (Well, a one man choir that is also the preacher, lol)

Note that file handling is not the subject of this thread, its where acad is installed.

You know that, but beginners on the topic read that and get side tracked.

thx

[RSomppi]

There's nothing like an alternative workflow to solve this problem. File management is just a necessity for this workflow. Remote desktop via VPN wasn't a viable option 15 years ago and it looks like it still isn't.

Work smarter, not harder/slower.