Annotation doesn't update when viewport scale is modified

[Anonymous]

Hi, I am trying to learn and apply annotative scaling to my drawings.  I have gone through a number of tutorials for the same. When I organise drawings in different viewports in paper space (layout), I use the command "zoom" ENTER "window" ENTER to scale the detail to the required size (i.e, the tab on the right hand corner shows the scale in decimal form). So when I tried annotative scaling, I used the same command to scale my details but the text or dimension did not modify accordingly. P.S- I have the "Automatically add scales to annotative objects when the annotation scale changes." switched on. The same command seems to work when the viewport is set to a definite scale, for example, set scale being 1:10 and I modify it to 1:20. annotation works. Let me know if you guys have a solution for this.

[imadHabash]

Hi,

>>  I use the command "zoom" ENTER "window" ENTER to scale the detail to the required siz <<

i doubt that this kind of zoom will give you exact scale.also and (as i know) that you have to change the vp zoom for the annotation scale that you add for your items.

regards,

[oswaldodcb · Accepted solution]

Hi @Anonymous,

When you define an annotative scale you must establish it from the list of scales, those are the predefined scales, you can insert custom scales depending on the scales you need. If you do ZOOM WINDOW will not give you result because that way not defining an exact scale, try to take that drawing to a commercial scale, or else set the scale you need and add it to the list to make it easier. For example, if ZOOM WINDOW generates a decimal scale of 0.046448, divide that value by 1, which would result in 21.52945 ..., with that value you can add the annotative scale to the list,

I attached some images to see the procedure:

 

 
Once done, you can add that annotative scale to your texts and other annotative objects,

I hope it will be useful,

Regards

[kadmonkee]

set your model space scale 1:10 msltscale = 1

set your Paper space psltscale = 0

create your viewport and set the scale of the open viewport =1:10.

if you need to use multiple viewport scales on your sheet in paper space be sure to set the viewport scale correctly.

See process in the image

[Anonymous]

Hi @oswaldodcb

Thank you for the reply. I tried the procedure and it works fine. I generally use the 'zoom; window' command to reduce the number of steps in organising my drawing in paperspace as I show graphic scale in every drawing. But using your solution the same number of steps add on. Is there a way I can organise my drawing in fewer steps with not having to try setting the scale a multiple times ? 

[oswaldodcb]

It's nice to be able to help you @Anonymous

Usually I recommend using commercial scales, so it is much easier and safer to scale. The commercial scales are those that you see on a scalimeter (1: 1 1: 5 1: 12.5 ....) and their derivatives (1:10 1: 100 1:50 1: 500 ....) in establishing these scales From the list you just have to enter your viewport and assign it.

One recommendation: You can use Zoom Window to have an approximate scale, then divide that value between 1 (1 / decimal value), for example: 1 / 0.020125, that will give you a value of 49,689, that value round it out on a commercial scale, for Example 50, so you have scale 1:50 and you can use it from the list.

If the value gives 45.211, also round it to 1:50 and so, because you will have many different scales, the idea is to unify the scales and use the most commercial,

I hope it helps you

regards

[Anonymous]

I guess I will try doing that, thank you for the help @oswaldodcb. 🙂

[neaton]

Take the time to use good drafting practices and make your drawing viewports to scale so an engineer or architect's scale can be used on any printouts.

You can save a few steps by creating Tool Palette tools to set the viewport to a specific scales. Right click in the Tool Palette and select Custom Command... This will open up the CUI. Scroll down to Zoom and click and drag it to the Tool Palette. Close the CUI. Right click on the Zoom tool in the Tool Palette and select Properties... Edit the command string from '_zoom ; to '_zoom;1/10xp; Be sure and remove the space after zoom. You can do this for all scale sizes you would normally use such as 1:1, 1:2, 1:5, 1:10, 1:20, etc. Once the tools are added for the different scales it is just a matter of clicking on the scale tools until you get the scale that works best for the sheet. Soon you will be able to look at the decimal viewport scale and know which scale to select. See attached Screencast.

Nancy

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@Anonymous wrote:

Hi @oswaldodcb

I generally use the 'zoom; window' command to reduce the number of steps in organising my drawing in paperspace as I show graphic scale in every drawing. But using your solution the same number of steps add on. Is there a way I can organise my drawing in fewer steps with not having to try setting the scale a multiple times ? 

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[oswaldodcb]

A pleasure to help you @Anonymous

Success!