2017 Mtext creating unwanted list?

[callison]

When begining a sentence with a symbol and also within the sentence is closed parenthesis, the word following the closed parenthesis seems to become part of a list with the parenthesis and cannot be separated by stretching the width of the mtext.  Removing the symbol at the beginning and all works as it should.

See attached dwg file showing an example similar to below:

∠ 6" x 3 1/2" x 5/16" (LLH) BETWEEN EACH JOIST.

Notes: I have tried removing all formatting, making sure "allow bullets and lists" are unchecked and turned off.

I even tried using the adad.dwt template and I still get the same behavior.

If I open the drawing in 2016 it behaves as expected.

Also, drawings created in 2016 and older that are opened in 2017 have the same problem and several paragraphs/sentence widths become this way and have to modified to wrap correctly.

It would almost seem to be a system variable that's different or it is a bug in 2017.

Any help is appreciated.

[callison]

@john.vellek

I am not sure but I think Autocad grabs the symbols from the TT font.

I use simplex.shx as my primary font, have for years.  I have also tried a couple other fonts and there is no difference, the issue remains.

I think the key here is that 2016 running on the same Windows 10 machine does not have the problem.  Hence, 2017 seems to have something changed.

I checked the simplex.shx in both 2016 & 2017 folders and they both have the exact same date of 5/6/1997 as the last modified date.  I can only assume they are the same fonts that Autocad has been installing for years.

@chauhuh thanks for you input as well.  This better helps to show it is not an isolated issue.

[john.vellek]

HI @callison

I am still perplexed by this issue. I looked at the angle and it is Simplex as well and not a Truetype font. Does it behave diffently if the text style is not Annotative?

You also mentioned I believe that you are on Windows 10. Do you have another workstation that is Win 7 or 8 to try this on?

[callison]

@john.vellek

Annotative seems to have no affect.  I tried both.

I do not have and machines with Windows 7 anymore.

I have not heard from: Roann Knight (Technical Support Specialist), who is assigned to my support case, for a few days either.  I can only assume they are busy or are stumped as well.

[callison]

I received an email from Autodesk support and they have confirmed that this is a bug with Autocad 2017 & Windows 10 and have logged a bug report.

I will post back when I hear more info.

[chauhuh]

I think I know how to reliably replicate the problem.

This bug applies to AutoCAD 2017 and any special character with the that begins with \U+2*** (There may be others).

TTF or non-TTF fonts do not affect the results.

Create a MTEXT box. Add a symbol (such as the angle \U+2220). Whatever immediate text entry comes after the special character will ignore text wrapping.

[callison]

So I got some news back from the Autodesk Support team person working on my case.

The Autocad development team has confirmed the bug report and said they may produce a hotfix for Autocad 2017, but there was mention of waiting to fix it in Autocad 2018 (or maybe both).

It was suggested that if I have a lot of affected drawings I should stick with Autocad 2016 and not use 2017 on Windows 10.

Obviously to me neither is acceptable.

If anyone know how to push more buttons at the Autocad development team or customer support/retention to get the hot fix expedited it would be appreciated.  Otherwise, ?????

[callison]

Still not fixed in 2018.  I'm paying for a maintenance subscription every year but they don't fix things that they previously broke.