having issues with paper space, can't find Autodesk Documentation, blogs or frum threads to assist me

[alastair_leith]

when I create a new layout view in my drawing and set the page setup scale to 1:1 and the drawing viewport scale to 1:10, the model (which is at 1:1) is showing at a scale very different to 1:10.

I have one Layout with is setup as an A3 landscape format, and the view mode is set to reflect the plot style choose for the layout (monochrome: lines of all colours printed as solid black). The scale for this section drawing is 1:2, and the scale looks accurate to me given the 420x297 mm page dimensions. 

When I click on the viewport of this correctly working Layout, I get some info in the top left corner (see image)

When I use the pan command, Autocad moves the drawing within the viewport window so I can get the correct part of the drawing from modelspace inside my paperspace boundaries.

when I duplicate this Layout then click on the viewport, it highlights in a different way, with coloured selection anchors on the corners. When I pan the whole layout page moves, not the contents of the viewport in relation to the page. When I double click the viewport boundary Autocad goes into a modelsapce like mode and pacing and zooming here makes no difference when I leave the modelspace/viewport view. Also all the lines are in their layer colours not the plot style monochrome assigned to the Layout in the Layout this was duplicated from.

I have the same issues creating Layouts as new by clicking the "+" button in the lower left corner of the Autocad window next to the existing layouts. But it gets worse. This is where I'm seeing drawings that are set to 1:10 appearing more like 1:200 or something. The scale is totally out. can't get the ploy styles  to apply again, I must of flaked it with the one sucessful elevation.

Looking for a friend, or failing that some decent documentation from Autocad. Even the "master Autocad Papersapce blogs I've read shine zero light on these problems I'm having"

[pendean]

@alastair_leith Share your problem DWG file here please, and confirm what your units intent are (mm, inches, cm, meter, feet, kilometer, mile etc.) nd if you are aware or intended to use annotative text/dimensions/blocks or not.

And let everyone know your exact AutoCAD for MAC year version PLUS your MacOS version please.

[maxim_k]

Hi @alastair_leith ,

You asked a lot of questions in your post, sometimes it's hard to understand what you're asking, but anyway...

>>>......the model (which is at 1:1) is showing at a scale very different to 1:10.

Why do you think that the scale is very different? Please share the drawing with this issue.

>>>>When I click on the viewport of this correctly working Layout, I get some info in the top left corner (see image)

Yes, when you switch to model space inside viewport on the Layout, you should see in-canvas viewport controls -  This is normal.

>>>>when I duplicate this Layout then click on the viewport, it highlights in a different way, with coloured selection anchors on the corners.

Yes, when you select viewport AutoCAD should show grips at the corners of the viewport the same way as on other objects (line, circle, polyline, etc.)

>>>>When I pan the whole layout page moves, not the contents of the viewport in relation to the page.

If you are in Paper Space on Layout tab and use PAN command, AutoCAD pans the whole Layout, but not the contents of the viewport. This is normal.

>>>>When I double click the viewport boundary Autocad goes into a modelsapce like mode and pacing and zooming here makes no difference when I leave the modelspace/viewport view.

When you double-click on viewport border, you enter special "maximise viewport" state, which is practically the same as selecting Model tab at the bottom of the drawing area. You should see wide blue boundary around drawing area when you are in this "maximise viewport" state. And yes, panning and zooming in this mode not affect viewport pan and zoom level when you go back to Paper Space from this state.

>>>> Also all the lines are in their layer colours not the plot style monochrome assigned to the Layout in the Layout this was duplicated from.

When you are in  "maximise viewport" state (see the answer above), the Layout Page Setup settings do not work, because you actually  you are just temporarily switching to the Model.

>>>>This is where I'm seeing drawings that are set to 1:10 appearing more like 1:200 or something. The scale is totally out. can't get the ploy styles  to apply again, I must of flaked it with the one sucessful elevation.

Hard to answer without having your drawing at hand....

[alastair_leith]

I'll come back to this when I get a chance to provide more detail of the issues I'm having.

[alastair_leith]

ps. thanks for the response, I hope AutoDesk has you on a retainer!