Blocks and lines explodes when rotating the views

[lionel.wahlfrid]

Hi

I have a problem with lines and blocks exploding and spreading across all over the drawing when rotating a view for example.

Have anyone experienced something similar? I don't know if it has something to do with my blocks that I have created or something else. 

I would be very grateful for all the help.

Best regards,

Lionel

[pendean]

Your AutoCAD version and variant?
What exact commands are you using?
Can you share a DWG file with this behavior?

[lionel.wahlfrid]

I use Autocad 2018 for Mac, version O.48.M.478.

The commands I use are simple: Rotate --> specify base point --> then drag and rotate. After that some of the lines from my walls and windows just shatter all over the drawing. Frustrating. =( 

[dbroad]

If AutoCAD for Mac supports parametric features, switch to the parametric ribbon(if it exists) and choose show all. There should be two buttons, one for geometric and another for dimensional.  Parameters can do strange things when drawings are rotated.  If that is the case, you can either delete your parameters or put the group in  a block and rotate the block insertion. Otherwise, you could rotate the view instead of the objects.

[lionel.wahlfrid]

Thanks for your reply, but not sure what the parametric ribbon is and where to find it. I've tried to google it without success..

[john.vellek]

Hi @lionel.wahlfrid,

I have never experienced this.Can you share a sample drawing file so I can try it on my Mac? What is your OS?

Please select the Accept as Solution button if my post solves your issue or answers your question.

[pendean]

There are no walls-doors objects in AutoCAD for MAC: are these just lines that you are just calling walls/doors, or did you get a file from another software? Perhaps it is exploded.

Share your DWG file with the problem right here for all of us to see for ourselves.

[dbroad]

So, as John said, if you post a drawing with the problem, that would allow others to try to replicate the problem.

If the MAC doesn't have a ribbon, then it still might support parameters.  It's extremely difficult to find an actual feature list for AutoCAD for the MAC.   When you rotate objects with constraints in AutoCAD on Windows, you get a dialog asking whether to relax them so it's probably not constraints.

[john.vellek]

Hi @dbroad,

The Mac does have parametric constraints.  I have provided a link here to a feature comparison matrix for AutoCAD (Windows) and AutoCAD for Mac.

[maxim_k]

Hi Lionel,

Can you at least post here two screenshots:
- first - before rotation (when everything seems OK in the drawing)
- second - after rotation (when lines are "exploded")?

[lionel.wahlfrid]

Hi, sorry for the late reply. Please find attached screenshots and a sample of the dwg file.

After rotate, some lines have spread across the sheetBefore rotate

[lionel.wahlfrid]

No, these lines are my own, some are blocks that I have created.

[john.vellek]

Hi @lionel.wahlfrid,

I am away from my Mac but in Windows AutoCAD this behaves normally.  I will report back when I test on my Mac.

Please outline the exact steps you take to see this behavior.

[pendean]

I am unable to replicate the problem with your 2D plan with 3D appliances blocks file, and the only dots I see floating away from the model are insertion points of some of your blocks, there is nothing else out there

 

[lionel.wahlfrid]

Okey, let me know when you have tried on your Mac.

First I select the whole drawing (the floorpan), then write the command "rotate", then select a basepoint, and then drag and rotate the whole drawing, and that is where the lines spreads out accross the sheet. Not all of them, but some.

I am very grateful for you looking into this and helping me. 

best regards,

Lionel

[lionel.wahlfrid]

Oh okey, that is weird that you can not replicate the problem. Are you sure it is only the insertion points? How did you rotate the drawing/floorplan?

Best regards,

Lionel

[john.vellek]

Hi @lionel.wahlfrid,

On my Mac, I opened your file in AutoCAD. I used a window selection to select everything visible on the screen. I then type RO for rotate, select  a random basepoint and finally point to another random spot for the rotation angle.

None of the entities get exploded.

Is your process different?

Please select the Accept as Solution button if my post solves your issue or answers your question.

[lionel.wahlfrid]

I use the exact same routine. Are you sure the drawing is still intact after you have rotated it? Does everything seem to be in place? I have to zoom out alot to the see where the other lines have spread. 

Please see the attached images above for a better understanding of my problem. 

best regards

Lionel

[juemin.yuan · Accepted solution]

Hi Lionel,

This issue results from the annotation properties. See the pic below, pick the problem blocks which can not be rotated you will see they are annotative blocks with "Match orientation to layout" checked. It means these blocks orientation are forced to match the drawing layout and cannot be rotated in model space. So please redefine these blocks and uncheck "annotative" . I believe it will solve your problem.

Thanks,

Juemin

[lionel.wahlfrid]

Hi Juemin,

thanks for your reply, this solved the problem! Now I can finally work on my project again.

Have a nice day

Best regards

Lionel