Annotative Text, too big in model space or two small in paper space.

[twhitwell6]

Please can someone take a look at my drawing. 

Im trying to use annotative text for the first time so that I don't have to always resize my text depending on the scale Im using in the viewport. Ive read so many forum posts about people have problems like this but none have answer my problem. 

If i set my text style to 5mm, it appears at the correct size in paper space but disappears in model space. 

If i set my text style to 200mm, its appears the correct size in model space but huge in paper space. 

Many people have mentioned when you write the text, you have to change the scale in model space to match the scale that youll be using in paper space (the scale stated on the toolbar at bottom right) but i dont understand this. 

I already have all my text written out so it would be a case of changing settings not writting new text. 

Ive attached my drawing, please could someone take a look. Thank you for any help. 

Im using AutoCAD for Mac 2015 on Mac OS Sierra 10.12.6.

[pendean · Accepted solution]

Annotative Text works like this: you set the text style to be annotative, you set the final printed-on-paper size only, nothing else, and you let the program scale based on your annotative scale settings or viewport scale settings.

So it appears you don't know about CANNOSCALE command in modelspace https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad-for-mac/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2018/E...

If you want to jump around between model and paperspace, you have to set modelspace to be the same scale as the viewport in paperspace.

It's better if you get in the habit of only working through your viewport in paperspace to avoid jumping around, but that's up to you.

Now you can reset your annotative text size back to 5mm.

[twhitwell6]

Hi Pendean, 

Thank you for your reply. I think ive got the hang of it now.

Thank you 

[twhitwell6]

Hi Pendean (again)

Another question in correlation with the one before. 

I have re-set my annotation scale to 1:50. However now this means I can only see my annotation when my viewport is at 1:50. 

Is there a way that I can set it so that no matter what I make my viewport scale, the annotation is the same size?? I thought that was what annotative text was. 

Thank you 

[douglas.shortCM2W5]

Still doesn't make sense to me.

Let's take the simplest example.  

I draw a 1" circle in model space.

I place a letter, say 'A' in the circle that is 1/2"

All I really want to do is make sure the circle and the stay at the same proportion.

I guess a way to do it would be to redraw a version of the letter A instead of using text so you don't have to deal with annotation and its complexities/mysteries.

[cadman777]

I haven't used AutoCAD for many years (mostly 3d modeling), but recently it was 'forced upon me'. So, I tried using Annotative dims and discovered that they are COMPLICATED. Apparently, some IDIOT planned this without consulting people who work in the REAL WORLD.

Over the years I discovered that software developers, in an attempt to WIN MARKET SHARE, have been cutting corners (shoddy work product), and thereby foisting upon their customers STUPID IDEAS that are supposed to save them time and energy when they make drawings. Ha! They're just GETTING IN THE WAY OF PRODUCTIVITY and GLOBBING-UP their software with UNNECESSARY GARBAGE that BOGGS DOWN THE COMPUTER. It's like a bloated GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRACY: full of social parasites that suck the life out of the working people of society.

Anyways ...

I've been using AutoCAD since version 10 (late 80's). In the process, over the years, I developed my own method of using viewports and dimension styles to make sure the text fits the VP scale. It's simple. I make one standard dim style and copy it with a new Measurement Scale. Then I use each dim style on a separate layer that is named by scale (and vary the layer colors slightly). Then I dimension everything in MODEL SPACE. The PS viewport does only one thing: PRESENTATION OF VIEW TO SCALE. That way I can do basic DRAFTING according to the usual STANDARDS of any DRAFTSMAN.

The purpose of CAD software is to MAKE MY JOB (as a draftsman) EASIER NOT MORE DIFFICULT. Annotation dimensions make my job  MORE COMPLICATED, no doubt, so I don't use it. Simple AutoCAD is a very powerful tool for basic 2d drafting. But on a side note, it SUCKS at 3d modeling and drafting. If Autodesk could make AutoCAD like Inventor part modeling sketching, it would be a step in the right direction.

Just my 2 cent's for what it's worth ...

[maxim_k]

Hi @cadman777,

No one forces you to use annotative dimension and text styles, you can still work in AutoCAD without using them ...

[cadman777]

Hey Max,

Nice 'corporate boy' comment.

Actually, they DO.

But we have our 'work-arounds'.

Just sayin' ...

[maxim_k]

>>>>Nice 'corporate boy' comment.
FYI - I'm not a 'corporate boy', I'm an ordinary AutoCAD user, just like you.

[japanpersonals]

>No one forces you to use annotative dimension and text styles, you can still work in AutoCAD without using them ...

No-one forces you walking on two feet. You can still jump on one foot, or creep on the ground.

I just installed a new Autocad LT, and found to my surprise, that scale boxes disappeared in the bottom-right toolbar. The annotation scale is also cannot be changed in the Paper view with cannoscale, or even within the properties of the anno.object; even though I added the "1:5" scale in the list.

The roll-out configuration is broken

The UI is broken

The scaling mechanism is broken

The manuals are absent, or do not answer the question

Autodesk, what the hell is going on!?

[maxim_k]

Hi @japanpersonals ,

>>>>scale boxes disappeared in the bottom-right toolbar.

Please verify that they are enabled in Status Bar settings:

>>>>> The annotation scale is also cannot be changed in the Paper view with cannoscale

Can't reproduce on my side. When I change the CANNOSCALE inside the viewport, the annotation objects change their scale.

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@japanpersonals wrote:

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The roll-out configuration is broken

The UI is broken

The scaling mechanism is broken

The manuals are absent, or do not answer the question

Autodesk, what the hell is going on!?

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