Wire numbers not changing after component placed on a ladder

[travis.kangas]

I'm trying to place a circuit breaker on a vertical ladder.

The ladder is being fed from another page and then goes on to feed a ladder on the other side of the same sheet (two columns).

The wire number does not change after I place the breaker.

When I fix the wire number to be what I want it gets renumbered when I retag/update the destination arrow on the other column.

Is there a solution to this? Perhaps a setting I am overlooking? Or is ACADE not set up to be putting components onto ladders (i.e set up to only have components placed on rungs).

Thanks for input.

[testsubject]

Can you provide pictures or the drawing in question for us to look at?

There is not enough here to go on.

[travis.kangas]

THE LOCATION OF CB4305 NEEDS TO BE ON LINE NUMBER 4301SIGNAL PATHS OF PAGE, ERASED INFO IN PAGE.THE SOURCE FOR THE LADDER

[travis.kangas]

Hello,

I posted more info, screenshots, is the info I provided in another post enough? I'd share the .dwg but information is proprietary.

Thanks.

[testsubject]

Travis,

I just laid down a ladder and copied what you did and had no problem with the wire number changing.

I se a different component tagging but that should not matter.

Did you try renumbering the wires?

Is the bottom wire somehow connected to the top wire? This would cause what you see.

Are your Source/Destination codes unique? Sometimes copying these can cause problems....

Have you tried rebuilding the scratch database? This is done using AEREBUILDDB in the command line.

These are a few things I can think of without seeing the drawing.

[travis.kangas]

Thank you for answering.

Rebuilding the database did not fix the problem.

I have no problem with the numbering behavior if I don't have a destination arrow on the top of the ladder.

My source and destination codes are NOT unique. Are you suggesting I should not use the "search network for destination daisy-chain" option? Or is it only page to page that this problem arises?

I think it has to be something to do with source/destination behaviour.

Could I bother you to post a source arrow on another page and send it to the top of your wire? 

Either way thank you for your time.

[testsubject · Accepted solution]

Source/Destinations are probably the problem.

I just tried adding a destination (from off dwg) to the top of the ladder and used the same code for the source at the bottom of the rung and the wire number did not change.

It is important that source/destination codes do not loop.

You can have one source with many destinations (I personally don't do this but it is possible).

I recommend not using the same code for both many sources and destinations. If you get in the habit of using source/destination code pairs it will be easier to check that you have all the ladders connected the way you want it.

I personally use the following format for my codes: the sheet number-index number; for example, 5001-01. I then increment the index number for each new source on that page. Then when I am looking to connect destination I can select which page it came from.

The description can be anything you want. Some people use different descriptions on each end to say where the signal came from.

I hope this helps.

[travis.kangas]

Thank you for helping.

I hope in the future the devs can make it possible to use duplicate codes without problems like this. It's just so much faster using duplicate codes, especially when I find myself dragging pages around because of engineering changes (cards going to different slots, circuits getting seperated, etc.)