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Panel terminal symbol builder [AutoCAD Electrical]

abmulti123
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Panel terminal symbol builder [AutoCAD Electrical]

abmulti123
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Hi,

 

My company uses ABB 039906817 terminals which have 2 connections on one side, and 1 connection on the other side. I've got the terminal layout dxf from ABB, and now I'm trying to add them to Autocad Electrical using the Panel terminal option of the symbol builder. I cannot find an example of a similar terminal in the Autocad Electrical libraries, and I'm having an hard time to find a tutorial about the panel terminal builder on the web. 

 

Anyone knows which wire connection type I should place on the footprint (No level, 1 level, 2 level...) and how to link this with the schematic symbol?

 

We just got Autocad Electrical last week to try and see if it can help with our electrical drawings. I'm setting up our parts library right now and I'm not yet very familiar with the terminal strip editor, I just know the basics.

 

Thanks,

Alex.

 

@abmulti123 

The topic title has been edited to improve findability by @alina.balkanskaia. Original: Panel terminal symbol builder

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Terminals can get crazy in this software. There's a lot to learn. A good resource to get you started is Doug McAlexander's website: http://www.ecadconsultant.com/tips.html

In a nutshell, you will need to use the graphics you got from ABB but probably nothing else. The rest will be made in ACADE (or copied from other footprint blocks). Your terminal footprint should include a Wipeout along with all the necessary attributes.

The symbol builder is useful if you don't know how ACADE symbols need to be constructed. For your needs, though, all it's really doing is showing you the minimum attributes it should have, and it's not telling you about ones that you should add due to this being a multiple-level terminal.

 

I've attached a terminal footprint block that I use for a Wago terminal. The terminal in question is a 2-level terminal with four connection points. These are internally jumpered in such a way that terminal has an 'upper' level and a 'lower' level, each of which is separate from the other. I only fussed with this block until it worked for our (relatively basic) needs. This means it may not be 100% functional, as far as all the things ACADE *could* do with it. But feel free to use it as a jumping off point.

 

I think the best way for you to do this is to use your graphics, and copy the attributes from my block into yours. Remember to change any font settings, we probably don't match. Note that there are different attributes here that won't come in with the symbol builder's attribute template. These all contribute to the functionality of multi-level terminals. You'll find these in some of the terminal footprints that came with the software (that's where I got them, and finding them is how I learned more about how multi-level terminals work.) A quick breakdown of their function:

 

LTOTAL: keeps track of how many levels are assigned to that terminal. Yours should be 3.

L02WIREPERC: keeps track of how many wires are allowed per connection point; 'L02' means 'LEVEL 02', and this attribute should be present for each level of the terminal. (For instance, you should go all the way to L03WIREPERC, because you have 3 connection points.)

L02WIRENO and L02TERM: again, this is an attribute that will be duplicated once for every level. In my block, I actually have extras of this attribute per level so that I can show the wire number in the footprint at both of the connection points for that level. So, I'll have two 'WIRENO' and two 'L02WIRENO' attributes in order to see the wire numbers twice. For your needs, you'll probably just use this attribute once per level. NOTE: there is no 'L01' anything -- level one is just going to be TERM or WIRENO.

 

The data that wants to be put into these attributes is held by the schematic symbol. When you go to the Terminal Strip Editor and it generates your terminal strip, it looks across the schematics to gather this info so it can 'push' it into the footprints for your terminals. You can also create strips from scratch, but you'll have to add all that data manually as you go.

 

Hope this helps,

Jim



Jim Seefeldt
Electrical Engineering Technician


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abmulti123
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Thanks for your answer! I will try that this week and let you know how it goes.

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daniel.poeGG2QF
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Hi Jim,

Could you explain how you got the TERM and WIRENO attributes? When I load my block into symbol builder and specify the block as a Panel Terminal I only get the following options as shown in the picture below (P_TAGSTRIP, MFG, CAT, ASSYCODE, INST, LOC, WDBLKNAM, FP, & FPT) I added "TERM", but do not know how to link it.

 

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jseefdrumr
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You shouldn't have to link anything; as long as the correct attributes exist in the footprint then ACADE will push values from the schematic representation into the footprint representation.

 

My terminal footprints use WIRENO, not TERM. I'm not sure what TERM does with terminal blocks, actually.

 

When the wire numbers need to be assigned to the left or right side of the terminal footprint, they are WIRENOR & WIRENOL. The attached image shows a common example of how these attributes can be placed. If you're not sure which of these attributes you should use, read up on them in HELP. Post back if you need to.

 



Jim Seefeldt
Electrical Engineering Technician


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