Inconsistent Wire Number Position

[dbrblg]

I am having issues with the position of wire numbers in various drawings.

This is just one example. 

As you can see these blocks are named the same but are displaying differently.

One is rotated but even if you use the rotate command then all it does is it rotates around the red grip which still does not correct how they should be displayed.

The project wire numbering is set to below wire so I would have expected this to display more like the top number rather than  the bottom which is more if inline.

If I open WD_WNV.dwg it looks like the how the bottom number is displayed.

How can I correct this?  I want these to display like the top number.  Not sure how you can have two blocks named the same and displaying differently in the same drawing....

[rhesusminus]

The graphics in a block must be the same, but attributes (this texts) can differ between blocks. Luckily. This is why two symbols can have different tags.

Any chance we could have a look at the drawing? Have you tried to run DWG Audit to fix problems with the drawing?

[dbrblg]

@rhesusminusI think it might have been the DWG Audit which caused the problem.  Everything was ok before a project wide audit which is when I noticed the issue...

I've attached a drawing which should show the issue...

[alan.al-salihi]

Hi @dbrblg 

From your file, it seems as if the rotation of the block is part of the issue. 

Was this drawing transferred from a project to another? 

Anyways, using Toggle Wire Number (AETOGGLEWIRENO) it seems to correct this in one or two clicks.
If not, make sure that "Project Properties" vs. "Drawing Properties" for > "Wire Number" tab > "New Wire Number Placement" settings are the same, or apply the project settings to the drawing settings and try AETOGGLEWIRENO again.

Does that help? 

[dbrblg]

Hello @alan.al-salihi 

It is possible that this was transferred from another project however this is not normal practice for us to do this...

On this particular sheet, the Toggle Wire Number solution seems to work, however on some other sheets this just refuses to work as it will only toggle between horizontal and inline... on these pages deteting and purging before adding wire numbers again worked.

I have something else which may or may not be related to this issue with regard to text justification.

The screencast below shows the middle justified text.  When selected, you can see that what should be the middle justification grip is not in the middle of the text.  If I click this grip to select, and dont move the mouse anywhere and click again (essentially click once to select and click again to place it back in the same place again) the justification corrects itself...

Odd and may not be related but thought this worth mentioning.

[rhesusminus]

The text justification problem appears when the texts are create using another font, that you don't have on your computer.
AutoCAD will automatically change to another font, but it will not adjust the texts accordingly.

When you open the drawing, does it say "Substituting xxx for xxx" if you press F2 and have a look at the command line?

[dbrblg]

Hello @rhesusminus 

I don't get any missing font messages however I do get a message in the text window:

Substituting [simplex.shx] for [Eurostar Black Extended].

and when I look in the text style, it appears the Eurostar Black font has a yellow triangle which I'm assuming signifies that it is missing:

No idea why this is missing but I need to get it back somehow.  Do you know if it is on the default install or what the file name would be?

Thanks

[rhesusminus]

That is not a font that comes default with AutoCAD Electrical.
Just Google it, she you should be able to find a downloadable version of the font.

[dbrblg]

I've managed to download the font and install it; now Autocad is not complaining.

I should have looked at this before, but the text with the justification issue uses the Standard style and uses txt.shx which is on the computer and is presumably found as there is no warning triangle against the font.

I also didn't receive any warnings, via the text window or otherwise, for any substitution of this font for this style...

I would like to understand more about what causes this; how can I diagnose this?

Thanks

[rhesusminus]

Can you share a drawing with the texts in it? It will be easier to "analyze".

You should get a "font warning" when opening the drawing, at least in 2020 which is the only version I have installed now, unless you've checked "don't show me this again".

[dbrblg]

@rhesusminus 

I've attached the drawing with the text issues...

I don't remember clicking "don't show me this again" however I could have dont it years ago...  No errors in the text window for substitution.

[rhesusminus · Accepted solution]

While it's impossible to know WHY this has happened, here's a VBA macro that fixes the texts:

Option Explicit

Public Sub UpdateTexts()
    
    Dim ent As AcadEntity
    Dim txt As AcadText
    
    For Each ent In ActiveDocument.ModelSpace
        
        If TypeOf ent Is AcadText Then
            Set txt = ent
            txt.Update
            Set txt = Nothing
        End If
        
    Next
    
End Sub