Icon - Same icon to select vertical or horizontal parent blocks
To expand slightly on Trond's (absolutely correct) answer...
There is no 'process', really, that you have to employ in order to place a block on a line a certain way. As Trond said, ACADE will do what it can do make that happen.
Specifically, when you are creating symbols for this software, you need to create two versions: one, dedicated for horizontal placement, the other for vertical. The naming conventions show you how to name them so that ACADE can handle them properly. So, a horizontal relay coil symbol would be named HCR1 and its vertical counterpart would be VCR1.
Where I work, we make OEM task-specific machinery mostly for the bourbon industry. Our equipment never leaves the USA. We loosely follow the NFPA standard. Our drawings rarely leave the company, excepting the set we include with the purchase of the machine. Because of this, I never have to draw to the European standard. My drawings are practically 100% 'horizontal' as far as symbol placement goes.
So, when I need a custom symbol, I only draw one version, the horizontal one. On the rare occasions when I need a symbol to be vertical, I just let ACADE use the horizontal version and I deal with re-positioning the weirdly-placed attributes. For me, it's faster to do this, than it is to draw two versions of every custom symbol.
Just FYI, in case that saves you time. Hope this helps,
Jim
Jim Seefeldt
Electrical Engineering Technician
There is no 'process', really, that you have to employ in order to place a block on a line a certain way. As Trond said, ACADE will do what it can do make that happen.
Specifically, when you are creating symbols for this software, you need to create two versions: one, dedicated for horizontal placement, the other for vertical. The naming conventions show you how to name them so that ACADE can handle them properly. So, a horizontal relay coil symbol would be named HCR1 and its vertical counterpart would be VCR1.
Where I work, we make OEM task-specific machinery mostly for the bourbon industry. Our equipment never leaves the USA. We loosely follow the NFPA standard. Our drawings rarely leave the company, excepting the set we include with the purchase of the machine. Because of this, I never have to draw to the European standard. My drawings are practically 100% 'horizontal' as far as symbol placement goes.
So, when I need a custom symbol, I only draw one version, the horizontal one. On the rare occasions when I need a symbol to be vertical, I just let ACADE use the horizontal version and I deal with re-positioning the weirdly-placed attributes. For me, it's faster to do this, than it is to draw two versions of every custom symbol.
Just FYI, in case that saves you time. Hope this helps,
Jim
Jim Seefeldt
Electrical Engineering Technician
It doesn't matter which version is in the Icon Menu, because ACADE determines which one to use based on the orientation of the wire you are trying to put the symbol on. As Trond said, if both versions aren't available, then the software will just use the one that is available and rotate it if needed.
As for reports handling 'duplicate' blocks, reports generally only read what is present in the drawings themselves, not the whole library. In fact, it's typical to have multiples of the same block in a drawing. It's just the attribute info inside of them that changes -- this is what gives ACADE its 'smarts'.
Take a circuit breaker. I'm looking at 10 on a drawing right now. They are all duplicates of the same symbol (HCB1.dwg). But, ACADE sees 10 devices because it doesn't care about the block (HCB1.dwg), it only cares about the attribute values inside it (AB 140G-G2C3-D100 100AMP). Reports look at attributes, so they won't get confused between horizontal and vertical symbols, even if they're on the same drawing. And even if they are technically duplicates, as in you have 2 identical 100-amp breakers, most of the reports would just say you have a quantity of 2 of that device.
Jim
Jim Seefeldt
Electrical Engineering Technician
As for reports handling 'duplicate' blocks, reports generally only read what is present in the drawings themselves, not the whole library. In fact, it's typical to have multiples of the same block in a drawing. It's just the attribute info inside of them that changes -- this is what gives ACADE its 'smarts'.
Take a circuit breaker. I'm looking at 10 on a drawing right now. They are all duplicates of the same symbol (HCB1.dwg). But, ACADE sees 10 devices because it doesn't care about the block (HCB1.dwg), it only cares about the attribute values inside it (AB 140G-G2C3-D100 100AMP). Reports look at attributes, so they won't get confused between horizontal and vertical symbols, even if they're on the same drawing. And even if they are technically duplicates, as in you have 2 identical 100-amp breakers, most of the reports would just say you have a quantity of 2 of that device.
Jim
Jim Seefeldt
Electrical Engineering Technician