Footprint wire annotation

[pajder]

Hi everybody,

As a topic says I have an issue with wire annotation and I can't figure it out. In my case I have relay where I properly marked all terminals using 3 attributes (Tagstrip=name of device, Loc=place where it is, Term01= particular terminal of device). In case when I try to run wire annotation from panel tab I'm getting some values but those are just for 4 terminals instead of 44 that I have on relay. 

Does anybody know what could be an issue or at least had situation as described?

Thanks in advance. 

[jseefdrumr]

 Can you post a screenshot of the results you're getting, and maybe some sort of mage showing what you're expecting or wanting to get?

[pajder]

Tnx for quick reply, attached is snapshot of the issue that I have. For some reason it shows multiple connections for A05 but it could be because of database since I have 3 more exactly the same relays just having different tags 11f2,11f3, 11f4. I'm more concerned about randomly showing things like a10 and c08. is there any trick with database that I have to do. Those Z terminals are from 3-line drawing that is not shown here.

Thanks 

[jseefdrumr]

Can you post the screenshot as an attachment, instead of an image inside the body of your post? It's blurry and you can't zoom in.

[pajder]

Now should be good and easy to read.

[jseefdrumr]

Sorry, the resolution is still unchanged. Looks exactly the same.

[pajder]

Well I have interesting things related to my case. As I mentioned before I have 4 exactly the same relays like the one showed on attached file. On 3 of them everything works with minor issues but on 1 (11F1) that I showed it doesn't. I still can't understand reason. What I noticed is that even on relays where it works those small mistakes are relate to non-recognizing one particular terminal block connection. To be more precise it is always TBX 44 and that is the terminal block that was not initially there during creation of schematic, it has been added later. It looks like that my database is not refreshed or compiled hence that TB is not recognized, instead it recognize earlier connection before I add that TB. I tried AEREBUILDDB and the problem still persists. Nothing comes to my mind how to solve this issue. Is there anybody who is good with this database issues.

Thanks

[jseefdrumr]

Did you run the wire annotation report before or after adding the relay that doesn't get annotated? If you added the relay after running the report, you'll most likely need to run the report again. Most reports in ACADE don't update as things change, and there's no way to refresh them or bring them up to date; you just have to run the reports again. I've never used the panel annotation one so I'm not 100% sure about it specifically, but I have no reason to think it would behave any differently than the other report functions.

As for the more specific stuff you mentioned, it's impossible to make out the schematic in that screenshot so we can't really try to correlate the panel annotation with the terminals. For example, everything is so blurry we can't even tell where 'TBX 44' is. Chances are, though, if there is a specific terminal causing problems with all the relays, then that implies that something may be wrong with how things were drawn to begin with. It's just impossible to offer more guidance without being able to see what's going on.

The best thing you can do is just post the drawing or drawings that are causing problems.

[pajder]

First of all thank you for time devoted for this case. 

In general I first made my schematic, than edit it by adding some terminal block due to cause of project and after all those changes are don first time run report related to the panel component wire annotation. As it can be seen on attached drawing I have two exactly the same relay only difference is in Tag of equipment and tags of equipment connected to them, but principle is the same, however results are different when I try to run annotation. During the processing I noticed that ACADE doesn't recognize all terminals of my 11F1 relay while it do that for relay 11F2 regardless I do trying to fix that. My thoughts are that updating of database is stopped somewhere in past and now I can't do anything with it. I even try to do fully rebuild library including wire processing and result is even worse, after doing that annotation of panel components doesn't work at all. To be more precise I get message that selected component doesn't have any wire connected which is absolutely not correct as it can be seen on drawing.  My question, is there any way how to deal with database so it can properly collect data from schematic and how to do it. 

Attached is drawing so you can analyze it.

[jseefdrumr]

This drawing cannot function properly in ACADE for several reasons, some of which are:

*It lacks the WD_M block, which is required to even draw a wire or insert any symbol

*some of your wires aren't on wire layers

*some of your symbols aren't actually symbols, they're just graphics

In short, this drawing is so far away from what ACADE expects that there's no way it can function properly in the software without being almost totally redrawn. That also makes it pretty impossible to tell you how to fix your annotation problem, because it's a guarantee that all these other issues are affecting it. Exactly which ones, and to which degree they're having an effect, I can't say....there's just too many things to hunt down and fix before trying to get a proper annotation report.

I would draw this one over, using only ACADE workflows, symbols, etc. There's too much regular ACAD in here for the software to know what's going on.