Drawing List Report Formatting Defaults

Drawing List Report Formatting Defaults

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Drawing List Report Formatting Defaults

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I am trying to setup the drawing list report so that the formatting is consistent from project to project. I modified the .SET file which seems to get me consistent columns but nothing else. I still have to select the following:

 

-Title Line

-Column Labels

-Column Width

-Placement

 

How can these be defaulted? Do I need a custom LISP routine?

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TRLitsey
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Hi there,

 

How do you modify the .set file?  Do you open it with a text editor and change values?  Or do you use the ACE utility to modify or create a new .set file and save that file with your own file name?  On my machine I select the field for each column and ACE seems to size the width to accommodate the longest number of characters for a single line.  So if in the Drawing Description column which is the title of the sheet ie POWER ENTRY, or 24DC DISTRIBUTION, ACE sets the width for the longest title and everyone else will fit.

 

Good luck

 

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jseefdrumr
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The .set file only determines which information is reported. If you want to change the actual appearance of the report - i.e. forcing columns to be a certain width - when you put it on the drawing, you need to be looking at Table Styles. These are found in the Home tab, along with all other Vanilla commands. It is one of the very few Vanilla functions that are meant to be used with ACADE.

When you put a report on a drawing, it uses whichever Table Style is currently active. In my templates (I use one template for each of: Schematic, Panel, Pneumatic), I make my preferred Table Style active before saving the template. Each one has the same Style assigned to it.

Then, when I need a table, it doesn't matter what kind of drawing it's on, or what information it contains, it looks just like all my other tables.

hope this helps,

Jim



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TRLitsey
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Hi Jim,

 

I was suspect that the Table Style was involved somehow.  I would like to ask, when you create your own table style how does the column width adjust?

To say it another way,  If you set the width to be 30 character's but one of the data cells has 40 characters, on the other hand if the width is set to 35 character but the longest data cell in the column is 10, does the column adjust for undersize or double space for oversize?

 

Just thought I would ask.  Thanks

 

 

--Sorry, I meant to say does the over sized cell automatically "wrap text" to double space while keeping the fixed width.

 

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jseefdrumr
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I actually don't know the answer to that. I don't force column widths or any other size attributes to the cells in the reports. I only control the text style and height, alignment, etc.

My normal workflow is to put the table in paperspace with my titleblock. This allows me to never have to scale it up or down to 'fit' the size of my modelspace. Text is always the correct height, all I have to do is adjust the column widths. I have to do this every time I insert the table, even if I use the 'update existing' option. That's the only unfortunate thing.


Jim Seefeldt
Electrical Engineering Technician


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ccad2509
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Anonymous
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I have the .SET file functionality and it looks like it follows the text formatting from the table style but what I wish to do is have the insertion point defaulted as well as a title line and column lables. It seems the report generator overrides some of the table style.

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jseefdrumr
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Well, the insertion point isn't a function of the .set file, or the table style. Insertion point is an aspect of the 'Put on Drawing' part of the command. I'm not sure that this is something you can define in advance, I can't see a way but that doesn't mean that none exist.

And while the report generator does offer you the options to add column labels and a title line, I'm not seeing that these options are maintained in the .set file - looks like they have to be set every time.

I did a little poking around, and I learned that my earlier assertion that the .set file only provides information is incorrect. I can confirm that in the case of a conflict between settings in the Table Style and the selections you made in the set file, the set file wins. I did this by creating a set file and changing all the text justifications. Then I ran a report with it and put it on a drawing using my established Table Style. All of my Style's text justifications were overridden.

In short, yes the set file overrides the Table Style, and no it does not appear there is a way to set defaults for insertion point or line/column labels.


Jim Seefeldt
Electrical Engineering Technician


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rhesusminus
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This should be saved in the SET-file.

Use the Report Format Setup tool to set it up properly.

Here, I've set the insertion point to 89,98:

 

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