Adding fixed suffix to wire numbers

[danielrayburnpoff]

My employer insists on using a fixed suffix on wire numbers for different remote enclosures.  For example, one enclosure might be designated "AS", and another enclosure will be designated "AT".  They also use the number "9x" to designate remote enclosure wiring numbers. 

All that being said, as an example, remote enclosure "AS" will start with wire numbers 9100AS, 9101AS, 9102AS... etc.  The next page will be 9200AS, 9201AS, etc.  

The next remote enclosure "AT" will start with wire numbers 9100AT, 9101AT, and so on

(an example of some rungs attached)

This is a reflection of outdated methods of creating wire numbers for schematics that did not utilize AutoCAD electrical, but now we have a situation that requires AutoCAD electrical, I don't know of a way to add a fixed suffix to wire numbers.  Adding a fixed prefix would be easy, but if you begin a wire ladder with 9100AS, the next wire number will be 9100AT, and so on (example attached).

My fear is that there isn't going to be a way to add fixed wire number suffixes like I require, and I dont know of any way to manually override it line by line, as any component's %N value will still register as the original wire number if I edit them one by one.  Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.

[rhesusminus]

Is it just the wire numbers that should have this suffix, or do you want them for the components also, since you try to add those to the ladder.

Setting the wire number format to %NAS should give you the wire numbers you're looking for. Or you can use different wire types, and have them numbered with their special suffixes.

We just need to see the whole picture first.

[danielrayburnpoff]

I would like all the components to reflect this suffix if possible.  However %NAS has no effect on the numbering at all

[rhesusminus]

Hmm... I believe you're out of luck with getting this kind of ladder numbering in AutoCAD Electrical, but let's wait for the US users wake up. They are better with ladders....

[jseefdrumr]

You could do this using the replaceable parameters. That's what the % symbol denotes in the tag format. %S is for Sheet, %F is for Family, and so forth.

Knowing which ones to use depends on which ones are free for you to use. To determine that, review the list of replaceable parameters in HELP. My recommendation would be to use INST and LOC, which are for installation and location.

To integrate this into your tags, you would access Drawing Properties or Project Properties, and set the formats accordingly.

For instance, if you aren't already using INST and LOC, this is an example of how it could work:

Use INST to hold the value for remote wiring (%I). Use LOC to hold the value for the enclosure name (%L).

TAG FORMAT: %F%L%S%N (Family, location, sheet, rung number)

WIRE # FORMAT: %I%S%N (Remote wiring designation, sheet, rung number)

Note that other aspects of these examples may not exactly line up with how you do your tags and numbers; the main point is how to make this happen.

Give this a shot and post back if it doesn't help, or if it needs tweaking.

[Icemanau]

I'm not sure about how to do this when using ladders, but in the Wire Layer Foirmat Override, it's possible to set a Prefix and a Suffix.

My normal setup includes layers for the various types of CT/VT monitoring by phase and then the numbering is setup to add the appropriate prefix and number sequence.

I left the box for the Suffix blank as this is not normally used here but if needed it's easy to put in.

Regards Brad

[testsubject]

Jim,

Great minds think alike. I was going to suggest the same thing....

[jjstr8]

I think this is close to what you're describing.  What you've already found out is that ACE doesn't index the rung numbers like you want.  The only way I could produce this was to add the "AS" as text after the "9100" rung number.  It was easy enough to array it based on the rung spacing which allows you to just edit just the source of the array to change all of them on the sheet.  A simple COPYCLIP/PASTEORIG will get it from sheet to sheet.  As for the wire numbers and component tags, they would be set up with the "AS...AT..." manually.  If you're not using Section or Sub-Section from the drawing properties for anything else, you can use %A or %B in place of "AS" in the component and wire number formats.