Where is Civil 3D 2018.1?

[BlackBox_]

We're on AEC Collection Subscription (rental), and Civil 3D 2018.1 doesn't show up in Autodesk Account at all.

Has Autodesk already taken it down because of the issues being reported, or is something wrong with Account?

Autodesk Desktop App is banned here, due to Akamai malware dependency, and 'terms and conditions' state that when you OK a download/install, you grant Akamai access to use your local and server resources as Autodesk's free edge servers, even while the system is in use... Letting Autodesk use the stuff we pay for, for free - I'm not about that life.

So, where can I download Civil 3D 2018.1?

Cheers

[thejac]

I noticed the same thing. I waited a week and had some test PC's running the C3D 2018.1 update and seemed fine so I started rolling it out. Now I went to check for updates and noticed it's not listed anymore. Did it get pulled?

[DarrenP]

on my account i only see Civil 3D 2018.0.1 so i am assuming 2018.1 was pulled

[mathewkol]

Indeed, I no onger see it.

[jefflambert9091]

I just installed yesterday though the Autodesk Desktop app. 

[tcorey]

@Anonymous should have the inside scoop. Wendell?

[BlackBox_]

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@jefflambert9091 wrote:

I just installed yesterday though the Autodesk Desktop app. 

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Congrats - By installing through Autodesk Desktop App, you're one of many who either willingly, or unknowingly clicked OK button once, thereby granting Akamai malware and Autodesk by extension to henceforth use your client/server/network resources as their own free edge server, according to the terms and conditions.

Cheers

[Anonymous]

Akamai - do tell.

I requested more information from Autodesk. I also use the Desktop App, for now, because it is a really easy way to keep the complete product suite up to date.

I couldn't find the Desktop App license agreement on the web page that opened from the About button on the App.

[BlackBox_]

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@Anonymous wrote:

Akamai - do tell.

I requested more information from Autodesk. I also use the Desktop App, for now, because it is a really easy way to keep the complete product suite up to date.

I couldn't find the Desktop App license agreement on the web page that opened from the About button on the App.

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Akamai provides Autodesk a service, which has long been under fire for being suspect, but make no mistake - Autodesk is responsible for attempting to (and in many cases succeeding at) pilfering your local/server/network resources by way of the services Akamai is contracted to provide them.  

Autodesk is pilfering from it's users; Akamai just sells them the tools to do it, which means Autodesk doesn't actually have to pay for their own edge servers worldwide, because they've just tricked you into doing it for them.

Here's one of many references on the topic, this one from back in 2011: https://www.cadnauseam.com/2011/11/03/any-autodeskakamai-people-care-to-explain-this/

Here's a snippet (my opinions) provided to Autodesk on their use of Akamai, which they've not yet even responded to: 

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@BlackBox_ wrote:

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I also have a substantial issue with the negative opt-in that allows Akamai Netsession Interface to be installed.

I don't have the time to go through each-and-every-single instance of how, and why professional organizations should not intentionally, or knowingly expose themselves to security risks by allowing Akamai, but in short, it's malware.

Only recently has Autodesk even included a link in Desktop App to the terms and conditions, and buried deep into those, you have a paragraph about (and I paraphrase) how electing to install AutoCAD products grants permission to have Akamai installed, and... wait for it... that we consent to allowing Akamai to use our local computer resources (which really means each-and-every-single individual PC within every given enterprise network that uses Desktop App to install software, exponentially consuming each office's upload/download bandwidth).

No.  I do not consent.  I will not allow Akamai to consume my office's resources for Autodesk's free benefit.

You (Autodesk) will give me an option to NOT use Akamai.  Period.  This is not open for debate, this is my employer's resources that you're claiming entitlement to, it's not okay, and you didn't even have the decency to ask first, frankly. 

There are plenty of gullible people out there, that will allow you to have your way with them, just for asking - just ask - and give the rest of us a means by which to use Desktop App without such, or it will continue to be a banned application in kind.


Not cool, Autodesk-er guys and gals... Not cool.

In fact, the way that the Terms and Conditions link disappears after being checked (preceding an install button click)... yeah, that's pretty shady.

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Please take from this what you like; I would strongly encourage you to uninstall Akamai NetSession from all workstations, and block it at the firewall/security appliance, etc for CYA.  Given the fact that Autodesk wants users to just click OK, it's bound to come back at some point, unless you ban Autodesk Desktop [Cr]App company-wide.

Even if you elect to continue because you don't see the harm, just know that this is costing your company money, consuming company-owned resources, or worse negatively impacting production in little bits here and there, even though you're not being compensated for allowing such.

Cheers

[neilyj666]

I  downloaded and installed a week or so ago from my account but just checked and 2018.1 is no longer listed....curiouser and curiouser...!!!!

[Anonymous]

Curious.....suggests and issue.  EPS call tomorrow morning

[BlackBox_]

Well, now that it's been a while with no real answer, I tried clicking the 'Need an Answer' button... Only it appears that Autodesk has revoked my permissions to do so #Strange:

[neilyj666]

Just checked now I'm back in the office and it appears in my account again

[M_c3d]

Installed 2018.1 via desktop app and its available under my account

[Partenheimer]

I also have access to it on my subscription account again.

But...

There literally is one bit of difference.

I downloaded it twice this morning to confirm.

Last week: 513,029 KB

Today: 513,030 KB

Could be nothing... but to play it safe, I'll use today's download.

Regards,

Michael Partenheimer

[BlackBox_]

Magically, I too now have Civil 3D 2018.1 update available from Account page.  Hooray, I think?

Sure would be great if Autodesk, or perhaps @peterfunkautodesk would explain why it was taken down, and clarify what has changed for it to now be back up... Should we install 2018.1, or is there a 2018.1.1 just around the corner...?

Cheers

[Anonymous]

Been told by an Autodesk contact that it was pulled due to a QA/QC issue.  Trying to find out root cause and what’s been changed

[BlackBox_]

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@BlackBox_ wrote:

Magically, I too now have Civil 3D 2018.1 update available from Account page.  Hooray, I think?

Sure would be great if Autodesk, or perhaps @peterfunkautodesk would explain why it was taken down, and clarify what has changed for it to now be back up... Should we install 2018.1, or is there a 2018.1.1 just around the corner...?

Cheers

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@peterfunkautodesk, @dsimeone, Bueller...?

[BlackBox_]

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@Anonymous wrote:

Been told by an Autodesk contact that it was pulled due to a QA/QC issue.  Trying to find out root cause and what’s been changed

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Just saw your reply; Thanks!

[BlackBox_]

So, after backing up all of my custom tool palettes (just in case, winks @peterfunkautodesk), I've installed Civil 3D 2018.1 update.

... Only now, each-and-every-single time I launch Civil 3D 2018, I'm greeted with a horde of these for each (that's three hordes):

• AeccvBase120
• AeccLand120
• AeccRoadway120

Google suggested that reinstalling Civil 3D Object Enabler would fix, but no joy.

Need some help, @Autodesk.