Viewport scale to 1"=10'-0"

Viewport scale to 1"=10'-0"

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Viewport scale to 1"=10'-0"

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I need to set my viewport to 1"=10'-0" for a site plan and I changed my SCALELISTEDIT but I don't know know what my paper units are and my drawing units.

 

Can someone help me?  the drawing is in model space and is drawn full size 48" long wall is 48" in model space.

 

Thanks,
catherine

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pendean
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1unit=1inch is not a proper scale for creating site plans: you're starting off at 1/12 too small.

Civil uses 1unit=1foot and they use a 1:10 scale in your case (built into AutoCAD). They also use decimal not architectural units.

I suggest your site plan be a separate DWG file drawn at the Civil unit then XREFed into your floor plan if needed.
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David_W_Koch
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What Dean says is true, most civil engineers working in imperial units in the United States use decimal feet, where one unit = one foot.

 

That said, if you are working in an architectural file that includes the site plan and your drawing units are inches, you can add a scale of 1" = 10'-0" by setting one paper unit equal to 120 model units.  (10 feet = 120 inches, so 1" = 10'-0" is 1:120.)


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pendean
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But... Where does the code official at the city/county/state get a 1:120 scale to measure the permit drawings?
And the contractor that needs to build it?
And the landscape / civil contractor?

It's one thing to "make do" for a personal need but if you plan on submitting these for permit:build then a made-up scale will only lead to chaos and a ticked off client.

Stick with industry standard scales please.
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Dean,

I'm going to assume that you are speaking very tongue in cheek because otherwise, you are flat wrong.  The scale David mentions would not be a special custom scale that would require AHJ to have a special physical scale.   If an architect (or civil engineer) chooses to use 1 unit = 1 inch,  or if the architect scales (or if the system autoscales the 1 unit = 1 ft plan on insert), then 1:120 is exactly the scale you need so that when it is plotted, the AHJ can use his 1"=10.0' civil scale to measure the plan properly.  I have done it many many times.  Same is true for other civil scales in the less often cases where inch units are used:  1"=20'-0" (1:240), 1"=30'-0" (1:360)...  In general, if the drawing is 12 times too big check the measurements in model space.  If they are right then the plot scale needs to be adjusted.

 

In general, if an architect's plan is inserted in to a ft unit civil engineering drawing, then the 1:10 scale should work.  If the civil engineer's drawing is inserted into an architectural plan, then the 1:120 scale is generally necessary.  I try to avoid the  1:120 situation but it happens.

 

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Doug

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Anonymous
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If you want to set your site plan using the scale 1 = 10-0, you need to select paper size according to the size of drawing. Units never changes according to the scale. As the scale changes, the units adjust themselves with the scale.

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David_W_Koch
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@pendean wrote:
But... Where does the code official at the city/county/state get a 1:120 scale to measure the permit drawings?
And the contractor that needs to build it?
And the landscape / civil contractor?

I could lend them mine.  😉  I have a standard engineering scale that offers 1" = 10'-0", 1" = 20'-0", 1" = 30'-0", 1" = 40'-0", 1" = 50'-0" and 1" = 60'-0".  I do not use it often, but those are all standard imperial scales for site drawings.


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tedwardspg
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Be sure your view port is unlocked. click inside of your view port to make the vport active, type: zoom. then type 1/120xp. This will sclae the viewport to 1"=10'-0". I am sur ethis is what you want to do. you can always add this scale to your scale list later so you don't need to activate the viewport. you will just need to click on the vport and select the scale in the viewport scale menu.

 

Add the scale to the scale list:

 

Scalelistedit

 

click ADD

Name appearing on scale list = 1"=10'

 

Scale properties: 1 = 120

 

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Message 9 of 21

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Thanks!!!!

 

catherine

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David_Knight
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David,

 

I have those, and i even have a neat Alumicolor 3055 12" Solid Left to Right Scale that has: 1/32", 1/16", 1/8", ¼", and ½" scales!

 

Love it.  

 

http://www.alumicolor.com/product/scales-l2r.htm

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Anonymous
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Is there a way to plot to scale parts that are 50 inches long?

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Anonymous
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I need the drawing to be 1:1

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David_W_Koch
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If your part is 50" long and you want a full-size plot (1:1), you will need a plotter that can plot to a page size greater than 50".  Do you have one (or, through a third party, such as a print shop, have access to one)?

 

Standard sheet sizes on our large-format plotter max out at 36"x48", but it is fed by a roll, so we can define a custom page size that is longer, when needed.  There is a maximum length (the exact number escapes me at the moment), but I know it is well over 50".  (You would most likely need to allow for at least an extra inch, as most plotters will not plot right to the edge of the paper.)


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First you have to set the model space. Remember that all things you do on model space are on a true scale. if you do that...you only have to work with viewports. Establish scales factors on viewports only.

UN is the command for drawing units.

 

If you want to set up the viewport on this scale oyu can use this:

Scale            Factor

1"=10'        = 0.254

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David_W_Koch
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1" = 10'-0" is 1:120 or 0.0083333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333...


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Anonymous
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Whoooo

 

What a big mistake jeje...thanks for hat one.

 

At an Engineering Scale 1"=10' scale factor is 120.

 

 

Thanks for that one

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Anonymous
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First you have to set the model space. Remember that all things you do on model space are on a true scale. if you do that...you only have to work with viewports. Establish scales factors on viewports only.

UN is the command for drawing units.

 

If you want to set up the viewport on this scale oyu can use this:

Scale            Factor

1"=10'        = 120

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Hi guys,

 

I am and interior design student and I am wondering, can I scan a floor plan which is drawn in an 1/8 inch scale and change it into 1/4 inch scale using autocad??  

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David_W_Koch
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Are you planning to use the scanned image as part of your final deliverable?  If so, yes, you can bring the image in and scale it up so that it is twice its native size (assuming that the original drawing and the scanned image remain at a true 1/8" = 1'-0".

 

Typically, in AutoCAD, things are drawn in Model Space in "real world" dimensions.  So a door opening that is 3'-0" wide in real life is drawn 3'-0" wide.  The final output is then set up on one or more Layouts, where Paper Space is treated as the full size "paper", and scaled viewports are added to view the contents of Model Space at a particular scale.  So if your final deliverable is a presentation board that is 42" long and 30" high, a rectangle for the trim line would be drawn that is 42" x 30" and the viewports and other graphics arranged inside.  You can still do this with your image; you will just need to enlarge it to full size in Model Space.

 

If I were doing this, I  would probably scale the image full size, and draw over it with AutoCAD elements, to get better graphic quality out of it for the final deliverable.  If the 1/8" = 1'-0" plan drawing has sufficient dimensions on in, I might skip scanning the image and just re-draft the plan in AutoCAD.


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Thank you so much. I don't know how to use AutoCAD. I downloaded it last night so I can teach myself so any tips will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your response.

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