Anchor of group to object

Anchor of group to object

brian_adams
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Anchor of group to object

brian_adams
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Found one thing that didn't use earlier at all. Anchoring of groups to objects.
As I i did it I didn't see the marker of anchoring . So I though it imosible . But I got that it happened when just started to move the object to which group was anchored. It can be perplexing for the working process.
For support services.
Is it bug? or it should be this way?11.JPG

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dbroad
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It makes sense to me. From the image (not testing), it appears ACA ignored the group and anchored one element of the group.  That is enough to affect the whole group or only one element as pickstyle controls.

 

Only AEC object support anchoring. When the anchor was added, it saw only the wall as a potential anchorable object.

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brian_adams
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Any way if doesn't seeing the anchor sign, I can't  be recognisable is it group anchored..Should be some signs that let me make right visual analysis. 

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dbroad
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I'm not sure I understood your last post.  Attach a sample drawing to your next post so I can see what you are seeing.

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Message 5 of 11

brian_adams
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Soory. The picture the same. I meant  that issue left.

The group definitely can be anchored to object, but there is no sign that it happened-and it could be confusing

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dbroad
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"The group definitely can be anchored to object,... "

 

To test that assertion, I created several tests

1.  A wall object anchored to another wall. Results: worked as expected.

2. A group with 2 walls object anchored to another wall. Results: anchor process recognizes the group for selection purposes but separately anchors each anchorable object in the group without anchoring the group itself.  If pickstyle is set to 1, selecting the group displays no anchor leaders.  If pickstyle is set to 0, each wall will separately display display anchor leaders when selected. So the group is not anchored. Instead the anchorable objects in the group are selected by the anchor command.

3. A group with lines and circles cannot be object anchored to a wall. The anchor command reports 1 group and 0 objects anchored. This doesn't actually anchor the group to the wall such that the contained objects move. the process stops when it can't find an anchorable object.

4. A group with walls and a line can be object anchored to another wall but only the anchorable objects are separately anchored to the wall.  The group acts to simplify selection but doesn't serve any role after that.  Moving the wall tha the group is anchored to affects both anchored walls but doesn't affect the line (regardless of pickstyle setting). Moving the line in the group will move the other lines in the group.

 

Groups are an interesting feature because an object can be part of any number of groups.

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Message 7 of 11

brian_adams
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It looks like when set up pickstyle to 0 the group simply unlock itself and it not a group any more. Every object of group can be ajusted independently. 

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Message 8 of 11

brian_adams
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but it funny trick with a pickstyle

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Message 9 of 11

dbroad
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No the group still exists. That is the beauty of groups.  Individual or group editing is supported.

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Message 10 of 11

brian_adams
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It appears,  the best way to solve it in appropriate  way is to make command of macros for  pick 1 & 0 and assigne  shortcut keys,  to manage  it quickly .But it still not the way it should be. It just accommodation. 

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Message 11 of 11

brian_adams
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I ment not accomodation, but adaptation. Sorry

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