Pick / Selection Delay after upgrade to Win 10

[mikeAZCDK]

I have a laptop that was previously running Windows 7 Pro 64bit and AutoCAD 2012. I installed an SSD and upgraded to Windows 10 at the same time. I re-installed Acad2012 but noticed a delay of a couple seconds when selecting things after a command. For example: E to erase an object and then pick. The same happens when creating a line or shape then picking a start point. It's consistently a second or two delay to make the first pick/selection. Subsequent picks happen instantly as expected. It's just the first pick. AutoCAD 2016 with sp1 exhibits the same behavior on this machine. When I added 2016, I chose not to import settings from 2012 intentionally to start fresh. The cursor isn't jerky and no overall laggy behavior is apparent. For my use, AutoCAD works fast and performs without a hitch in 2D and 3D. I've turned off SELECTIONPREVIEW and SELECTIONCYCLING. I've tried with hardware acceleration both off and on and tweaked more settings that I can remember. I've set Windows graphical properties to Adjust for best performance or appearance with no change. Has anyone seen this bahavior? I can put my Win7 hard drive back in and work for now, but I would love to just solve this.

TIA!

[stevetamplen]

Hello mikeAZCDK, and welcome to the Forums!

What I get from your post is that 2012 has the lag, but 2016 does not, is that correct?

What is UCSFOLLOW set to? Try changing the setting to see if that helps.

When you upgraded to Windows 10 did you also upgrade your video drivers?

There are some other possibilities here: 

Cursor is slow or jerky in AutoCAD

Please also check out this article:

Windows 10 and .NET 4.6 support for Autodesk products

If my post answers your question, please click the "Accept as Solution" button. This helps everyone find answers more quickly!

[pendean]

R2012 is not supported in Win10 http://autode.sk/1IY4C2X

In R2016, with SP1 installed, does starting GRAPHICSCONFIG command and turning off all the hardware acceleration options starting at the bottom of that pop-up all the way to the top help by chance? All of them please.

How much RAM on that old laptop and what is the video card?

[mikeAZCDK]

@stevetamplen. Per my post: "AutoCAD 2016 with sp1 exhibits the same behavior on this machine". UCSFOLLOW was set to 0. 0/1 has no effect. Video drivers are current from Nvidia. This is not something I describe as typical lag. The cursor doesn't stop or pause. I can move the mouse around during this inability to pick or select.

@pendean. 2012 comment is irrelevant. Identical behavior is also exhibited in 2016 sp1. Per my post: "I've tried with hardware acceleration both off and on". This was from the GRAPHICSCONFIG dialog box. Laptop has 8GB mem. Nvidia Quadro NVS160.

Please consider this machine performs flawless in all other ACAD use. While it's not a modern machine, it did not exhibit this nuance under Win7. Compatibility problems are possible, but highly unlikely.

[elshawadfy]

If your new SSD is samasung, and you're using Samsung magician by any chance, Optimzing OS would have probably disabled (prefetch / Super fetch).. which prevents the system from loading drivers to ram since the SSD is fast enough.. You may try reenabling that, and see if it affects performance..

[mikeAZCDK]

I do have a Samsung SSD. And I had run the magician software some time ago to address the known performance issue bug with data aging on that drive. But I don't remember that much in terms of options. I'll run it again and report back.

[Alfred.NESWADBA · Accepted solution]

Hi,

in AutoCAD 2016 start command _GRAPHICSCONFIG, create a screenshot from that dialog and upload it, please.

Try to disable hardware acceleration and see if the selection lag appears again.

Also make sure you try that with a new drawing based on an original AutoCAD template with just one line in modelspace.

If you do have any special mousedrivers installed then try another mouse (from another manufacturer) without installing something that the operating system does not find by itself. And if you do have any additional pointing device (touch screen or space-mouse, ...) please let us know that.

- alfred -

[mikeAZCDK]

Brilliant! You put me on the right track. I was just wondering this morning before I saw your post if the mouse itself might have something to do with it. The problem made that seem unlikely, as well the mouse performance in all other uses outside AutoCAD gave no indication of a delay in selection. I pulled out my bluetooth travel mouse and it works as expected. Both 2012 and 2016. My laptop is always used closed and docked so the trackpad wasn't even thought of for testing.

I've been using AutoCAD since R10/DOS. I'm very familiar with hardware selection, compatibility and tuning over the years. I just needed some outside my box suggestions. I have all the hardware accell options on again and misc settings back to my liking. Mouse selection still working great now. This is a very specific issue apparently with Windows 10, AutoCAD and my older series wireless Logitech MK300 mouse/keyboard set. Back to work! Thanks!