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Connection Symbols on Plan View-Line

Connection Symbols on Plan View-Line

Hello, 

It would be very helpful for the site crew to have connection side shown on erection plans. 

For shear plate connection this would be the shear plate represented as a short line, double clips and single clips as an angle symbol:

 

Connection Side 1.jpg

 

Regards,

 

Ilko Dimitrov

ACBS

13 Kommentare
bukko
Collaborator

Excellent  suggestion. I do this manually at this time...... a bit of a pain

acbsdesign
Mentor

Hi Craig,

 

What I do now is I show "connection side" on SP shear plates (the little punch mark), and I show it also on Beam and Column drawings (the default leader with the circle and cross in it), and I place a typical Connection Side detail on GN1 or GN2. 

 

This way erector would follow the connection side as marked on the shear plate.

 

Many erectors like it, but some are used to the way it is shown above on the screen shot.

 

Regards,

 

Ilko

iwafb
Advisor

Very useful feature request. Hope it gets enough votes...

johnjmbennett
Mentor
Does this thread not explain the process to create this fro
With standard tools

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/advance-steel-forum/symbol-for-indicating-connection-side-of-a-shear-...
acbsdesign
Mentor

@johnjmbennett

 

Yes, we do this for SP and MP dwgs.

 

However, Erectors would like to have shear plate shown schematically as a short line on the erection plan, as it is shown on the screen shot above.

 

Regards,

 

I.D.

 

acbsdesign
Mentor

@johnjmbennett, this is what I propose, the link for the video above is for SP and MP only:

Connections Symbols 1.jpg

acbsdesign
Mentor

Also-please include the Moment connection symbol in Plan View-Line drawing style. 

 

Added Moment Connection SymbolsAdded Moment Connection Symbols

What you can today (AS 2018 provides it):

All the Plan and Elevation drawing styles have records named as "Connection angles" and "Shear plates" and turned off, by default.

You can set their presentation on (e.g."VisibleHidden") and you will get those elements detailed. Since it is a one-on-one match with the 3d modeling positions, it's at your call if you consider this output distinguishable enough.Settings.jpg

 

 

acbsdesign
Mentor

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

acbsdesign
Mentor

I meant  to say "done to scale does not look good".

johnjmbennett
Mentor
I think they are looking for a symbolic representation of the shear plate as well as the angle cleat.
With both of them positioned a set distance from the single line presentation in plan view.

The cleat in end view is possible as symbolic ( maybe). They have widge symbols for these , but Shear plate is not a section, so no symbol available.

Not sure there is way to offset from orgin face in plan view. Only way to flag cleat side with punch mark.

acbsdesign
Mentor

Yes, I have been asked for symbolic representation, as shown in the examples above, it saves them time, and I understand their need from their prospective.

 

skylinedrafting2
Participant

Wouldn't this be possible if the suggestion by Gabriel.Costin could be used except that these would be at a different scale?  i don't think that is possible to have model elements on the same detail(page) at different scales but just a thought.

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