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Bolts should always go through steelwork as default

Bolts should always go through steelwork as default

The problem:

Bolts do not always go through steel members and plates.

Example:

Consider a single sided end plate connection on a continuous beam. A revision is made by the engineer to have a split in the beam at the middle of the connection . The result – bolt(s) will clash on one of the beams so I need to re-work the connection and loose time in the process. This problem can be difficult to spot on large models, especially if a change has been made in the positions of steel members.

 

Another example is shown in the picture below. This is the result of using a copy / paste from one model into another

 

The solution:

Can we have AS make bolt holes in members & plates as default ? After all, the system ‘knows’ that there is a bolt clashing with the member, so why not automatically put a hole in same and avoid a clash / possible drilling on site?

 

If the hole is not required then have that option in the macro or by clicking on the bolts as required.

 

More often than not, bolts should go through steel!

 

Bolted connection.jpg

4 Kommentare
aelmay
Contributor

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haedicu
Alumni
Status geändert in: Under Review

a workaround / solution was provided here.

 

We will be further evaluating this one in the near future and will keep you posted if we need any additional feedback or clarification. Please feel free to continue voting on this one as it will help us with the continued evaluation.

DumitruBerteanu
Community Manager
Status geändert in: Archived

Thanks for taking the time to submit your idea and to everyone else for contributing your thoughts and votes. Unfortunately, this idea could not be included on our roadmap and as such we will not be pursuing it in the near future. Thank you for your understanding.

Also please note that the bolt command is intended to ask for elements to connect, even if the elements are in logical position, to avoid any inconsistency an automatic detection would imply, if for example steel would be incorrectly placed at the position where the bolt is created. Selecting the element would avoid the incorrect steel from that position, while an automatic detection will add the element to the structure would signaling the user about an eventual issue (this also apply for edits made afterwards, when elements may be dragged in the bolt area )

mcwallautocad
Explorer
Hi,



Thanks for your response.



I don't agree with your analysis. In the vast majority of cases any
steelwork moved into the path of a bolt, whether deliberate or accidental
should have a hole to let the bolt pass through.



If we think about the problem for a minute, in which cases would not
drilling a hole make sense?

If a hole is not required to be made in the item, then the system should
automatically flag this up as a clash and enable the user to manually select
items to be ignored. (For example the hole must be drilled on site)



In my 30 years of experience having to drill holes on site, due to not
drilling in the workshop, costs far more in re-work and reputation.



At least give people the option and then we can decide the best way to use
it.



Thanks






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