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Add/Remove part to/from an assembly

Add/Remove part to/from an assembly

Hello,

 

There really needs to be a command that allows the user to add a part to an assembly or remove a part from an assembly. I realize you can use a weld or bolt(s) to form an assembly but in my case I will sometimes create an assembly of 20 to 30 or more parts using 1 dummy weld. This is how I create large frames with many parts. Currently if I discover weeks down the road that there is one or two parts out of the 30 or more parts that should be shipped loose, I have no easy way to remove just those two parts and leave the rest of the assembly intact. I would have to find a dummy weld I placed weeks (or longer) ago and separate the entire assembly and rejoin it without the couple pieces that need to be shipped loose. I could also delete the couple parts from the assembly and remodel them as their own main parts. This process is way too time consuming.

 

Thee should be a simple command that if you discover a part that is connected to large assembly or frame and you need to separate it, that you just simply click "Remove from Assembly" or if you need to add a part to an existing frame you simply click "Add to assembly". 

 

This would be a very helpful command in my opinion.

 

Ray Bergeron

 

12 Kommentare

you could use the add/remove function for Bolts/welds:


add_remove.jpg

 

This should word in your case. 

Anonymous
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Hi Sebastian,

Thanks for the input.
Yes I'm aware of this but if I have placed a dummy weld somewhere within a 12' wide x 45' long frame, maybe weeks ago or longer, it can be difficult or impossible to find the correct weld to deal with.

Ray Bergeron
Dielco Industrial Contractors
519-685-2242
ray@dielco.com

if this is only a dummy weld, I suspect you only use this one?
To find the weld you have many options:
connector.jpg

 

Or you decide to make a group (see Picture) or the best way in my opinion: use the logical weld, then input a prefix for the weld called "Dummy", now you had the option to save a search for it:

Weldinformation
dummy_1.jpg

 

Searcheditor:

dummy_2.jpg

 

Projectexplorer:

dummy_explorer.jpg

 

With the saved dummy search, the weld will be marked and now you could use this function to found it very fast:
dummy_mark.jpg

 

 

Anonymous
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Thanks Sebastian. This is helpful information for me.

Ray Bergeron
Dielco Industrial Contractors
519-685-2242
ray@dielco.com
johnjmbennett
Mentor

Hi,
the method shown above is the standard workflow for AS to add and remove elements that are connected together , normal try to introduce these tools , when training by just adding a plate to a connection that has already been created with bolts in it. The bolts extend and the holes are created without the need to create the bolts again.

Some me of the macros only have one weld point in them to group the objects into an assembly, truss macro If I recall correctly.

i think the issue here of adding to an assembly, would be not be able to be used until part of that assembly was defined as the main part, so the system knows which element to remove it from. Although there are manual ways to define this and also override this, they system normally defines this during the numbering process, with the governing rules set by the system.

typically, one larger element becomes the main part, the other parts becomes attached to that main part, via connection means of shop welds or shop bolts. ( there is a tool to display the main part of and assembly , on the numbering panel in the output ribbon)

so a really nice idea, but not sure it could be implemented , unless the main part is defined, as this becomes the control element of the assembly.

cheers

JB

Anonymous
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Hi John,

Could you have the new macro ask the user to define the main part when you invoke the command to add a part to an assembly? The computer could just ask "Please define main part of assembly you wish to add the part to" or something similar to that as soon as you try to add a new part to any assembly.

Ray Bergeron
Dielco Industrial Contractors
519-685-2242
ray@dielco.com
johnjmbennett
Mentor
There is already a define main part of assemble command in the system, the command is on the output tab on ribbon, panel part marks, just hover over the buttons you will find it.

We use this button to sometimes override the automatic main part of assemble reference created, to make another part of the assembly the main part.
This is because which part is the main part, determines the assembly drawing style used to create the fabrication drawing,
Anonymous
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John,

Yes I know about the define main part of assembly command, but could it also become part of a new "Add to assembly" command? You stated this command would be hard to implement because you need to know the main part of the assembly so AS knows what assembly you're adding or removing parts from. So just make this part of the new add/remove to/from assembly command, along with the existing define main part of assembly command.

Ray Bergeron
Dielco Industrial Contractors
519-685-2242
ray@dielco.com
haedicu
Alumni
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Anonymous
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Hi,

Actually, I am here trying to delete welding between top landing and stringer in a stair .. I couldn't .. pls, Can someone guide me to the right solution ??  (pls follow the following link)

 

https://autode.sk/2CQgEhi

 

Anonymous
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Hi

I realize this is a  really old thread, BUT, this is my problem: I have thius huge platform with railings. I don't want to show the railings on the construction drawings, therefore I have to remove their connection to the beams. I use the "delete objects from connection"-button, then of course I have to increase the length of the bolts 5 mm as they automatically adapt to not haveing to reach through the beam. But now I see that the holes in the beam also disappear.

 

There has to be a better way? This is soo tiresome, and the chance of missing something due to human error increases rapidly.

Regards

Anders

nick.horsmon
Explorer

Agree with Anders. There has to be a better way. An "Add to Assembly" command is badly needed.

 

I have a large spaceframe type assembly that I need to add 1 double angle to. Component and assembly drawings have already been released to the shop. Running renumbering causes a great risk of inadvertently changing something that has already been released.

 

Just make the button Autodesk. Your typical "use this workaround" answers are getting old. 

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