Wish list for Christmas 2020

Wish list for Christmas 2020

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Wish list for Christmas 2020

acbsdesign
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I hope you had a joyful summer and everything is back to normal.
In case you have not seen the list below, this is basically what we need to be done, these all were posted on the idea station, but it looks like the last is dead so I have to post them here:
 
1. Option to send a section view and a call-out detail from existing drawing AND new detail view from model to an existing drawing OR to a new drawing and details to be automatically numbered on that sheet (same as in REVIT). 
 
2. Introduction of   "POWER DIMENSIONS" 

Below are 2 links to screencasts, each dimension chain takes appr. a minute, and when repetitive, it takes time.

And even sometimes we do not click on the exact point when in a hurry, a human hand has 8mm and more coordination error at the end of the day.

Both dimension chains would be done for appr. 15-20 sec's with power dimensions, with no errors in selected points.

 

Power dimensions would be very handy for stair stringers-FOR BOTH HOLES AND STAIR TREADS dimensions:

 

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/community/screencast/05ffc54a-d4ad-45ab-8b9b-cae5944fab3e

 

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/community/screencast/15dfba9c-3b5a-4807-98a3-46084cc004f0

 

1. Choose one end point of a beam or plate
2. Choose the first hole from a hole pattern (or bolts / shear studs)
3. Rest of the holes to be added to the dimension chain automatically.
4. Plus add option:  Add another dimension chain to the first chain   
-Added:
1. I would add also a separate "Power Dimension-Sloped" macro-this will work for stair stringers and complex gusset plates.
2. Add point or Delete point from a dimension chain to work the same way as regular dimensions.
3. Possibility to make the combined (3@3"=9") same as regular dimensions.
In general-this new macro (both linear and sloped) to behave as a regular dimension, with the only difference, we do not have to click on each hole manually.
 
3. Possibility to mark what external list to be printed and to be BATCH plotted similar to how drawings are printed (either from DM or from BOM editor-mark them (check box or sim )and batch plot them at once)   
 
 
 

4. Added functionality: Manipulate system ends by entering values in AS properties.

Example-we need to move end of a beam 6" along its X -Axis-enter +6" in properties, or add 6" to the current value of X

Another example-Move lower end of a column by just modifying the ordinate value.

 

 

Coordinates in Beam Properties 05 08 19.jpg

 

4-cont........Added functionality: Manipulate system ends by entering values in AS properties..........Added-palette, separate from AS Properties.

 

Probably a better way to do this would be a separate macro, not connected to Advance Properties, 

to be started with a right click from the default menu.

 

A separate palette where we can modify ordinates:

 

Option-Relative or Absilute UCS

 

Moving the MIDPOINT to move the entire beam / column.

Moving start or end point to behave same as we drag the system end manually-connections to stay intelligent-such as base plates, cap (end) plates, clips, shear plates.

 

Checkbox "absolute" or "relative" to trigger current values to be displayed.

 

 

Palette-Object Coordinates.jpg

 

Coordinates may be used either when building a beam or column, or to move start point or end point due to design changes. Or moving the entire beam or column by changing the values of coordinates simultaneously. As the AS object is an AutoCad object having system line to behave similar to Autocad line.

Coordinates should have absolute and relative values in this dialog window, both to be manipulated.

This will be huge timesaver for columns for example.

Create 15 columns using the Column command in AS, 

Select all of them and modify the bottom end to start at -1'-0" below concrete (very common).

And modify top end to stop at the first floor level. 

We do not have any engine currently to modify end points of beams / columns/ bracing etc. using parameters.

 

5. Add Dimension Style Controls in MT for Ordinate and Absolute Dimensions 

 Please add the following dimension style controls in MT and in DSM:

5.1. Dimension style for Ordinate dimensions in MT

5.2. Dimension style for Absolute dimensions in MT

5.3. Please add an option in DSM in dimension requests for top and bottom side of the beam "SWAP TEXT" for both Ordinate and Absolute dimensions. 

 

Different dim styles and controls 04 18 19.jpg           

 

 

6. Order for numbering

Currently, we do not have an option to assign preliminary numbers per shape, size, thickness order.

The submitted advance BOM to fabricators if sorted per preliminary mark it will look with shapes and thicknesses messed up everywhere.

If ABOM is sorted per name, then the preliminary numbers are all over the place, and this is in contradiction to many fabricators' practice to reference the preliminary number to trace what was purchased etc.

There should be an option to assign preliminary numbers in order the material list is created -sorted per name, length, thickness, with preliminary numbers following the same sequence.

Currently, we are selecting all angles, or all W-shapes and run the numbering assigning preliminary numbers as close as possible per name, length, thickness etc. and it is a time-consuming process.

 

Result of numbering should look like this:

W-shapes-Start from deepest W to the smallest, from longest to shortest

WT

HP

HSS Square

HSS Rectangular

HSS Round

MC

C

L

FB

SQ

RB

PLATES- Thickest to thinner BUT SORTED PER MATERIAL GRADE, so no ASTM A36 (galvanized) plate is mixed with M270-50W (weathering steel)

 

Bolts should be able to get numbering based on:

-Material

-Finish

-Diameter

-Length

 

These are state departments of transportation requirements, and it is nothing to do with weird fabricator's requirements. In other words, we cannot by-pass them.  Any help with this will be appreciated.

 

Field Bolts marks in table .jpgField Bolts marks.jpg

 

 

 

7. Leader for Labels to snap along contour lines of parts when moved manually

Aesthetics improvement and time saver:

 Leaders for labels for parts to snap along contour lines of parts, angle between leader and label to have 5 to 15 degrees increments, the length between leader point and break at the text to have 1/16" increments, and not overlapping other leaders and texts.

 

Leader Single parts.jpgLabels - 04 11 19.jpg

 

 

8. Allow numbering for GA drawings when using processes to be the same as when using drawings styles.

 

Assigning dwg numbers for GA  dwgs using dwg styles is not an issue, we can have E1, E2 and to have Mp1, Mp2... Assigning dwg number for GA dwgs using Processes is a HUGE issue for fabricators I work with-Their systems and standards have a set up for GA dwgs to start from E1, E2... and Mp Dwgs to start from 1, 2...I cannot change this, it is beyond my reach.   Please allow numbering for GA dwgs when using processes to include a Letter such as E1, E2 having beams already detailed on dwgs 1, 2....same as if using drawing styles.    

 

This is a must.

 

9. Automatic Clipping-Shrink to drawing's limits option in details

 

Added automatic clipping for details, detail to fit automatically within drawing limits

 

Automatic Clipping-Fit in within dwg borders.jpg

 

 

10. Allow depth control for section views created by drawings styles

Currently, we do not have an option to modify the depth of section views created by drawings styles:

 

Automatic Views Depth Control.jpg

 

This is a classic example of why we need to have control over depth in automatically created section views:

Section A-A is supposed to reference holes in angles to top flange same as section B-B, but the automatically created section view does not show flange due to the top cope at left end. Please consider this for improvement. Thank you.

 

Depth control for section views 05 14 19.jpg

 

 

 

11. Calculate and show if a bolt has thread included or excluded  from the shear plane (example A325 N or A325 X)

 

This is critical for connections design, and we lose a tremendous amount of time when doing calculations.

 

Considering the fact design engineers are not doing connections in 99% of the projects, we end up spending time optimizing connections, and there is a HUGE difference if a bolt has thread included or excluded from the shear plane.

 

12. Add token "Camera elevation"-Z-ordinate of camera mid-point

Why do we need this-when creating a floor plan, and beams will be referenced thus W10x30 (-3) Detail View Title will be

SECOND FLOOR PLAN

T.O.S. EL. XX'-XX" (XX'-XX" would be the token) U.N.O.

 

We need to eliminate the manual input of camera location at every floor plan we create.

 

 

Token  for Camera Elevation (1).jpg

 

 

13. Add Grid Line name as a token in Detail Titles

 

Elevation view, for example, will be

"Elevation at Grid Line X (X=token)"

 

Currently, this is entered manually

 

14. Creating camera views (grid elevations) with assigned sequence

 

Well, This is one thing that is supposed to be "Automatic"-a customer success story - teller who visits this forum frequently,  insists it is automatic, but it is not, and it is not done right.

Automatically created camera views should follow a logical sequence-Start from grid line 1 to X, and after that from grid line A to Z.

OR-a new command: "Assign sequence for detailing" for cameras by clicking on each camera or to choose from a menu with cameras listed

 

15. Name of camera view to be same as the grid line it is located on

Currently, when we copy a grid line with an already created camera, the new view takes the name "Copy...", we have to manually rename the view.

Not a big deal, but when it is done 30-60 times for each project, for 60-100 projects a year it may be worth looking at a possible way to link the view name with the grid that is located on.

 

 

16. Add Marking for through plate connection similar to shear plate connection

One of those small things in AS that may slowly but surely piss off detailers, a punch is created for Shear Plate Connection but it cannot be created for Through Plate Connection:

 

Through plate-marking.jpg

 

 

17. Connection Templates Folder-search for connections in sub-folders:

 

Currently, we do have 3 main folders for connection templates, each of them has appr. 30 connections in it.

BRIDGES, STRUCTURAL STEEL, MISC. METALS

In order to use a connection template, we copy the connection first from one of these folders to the main folder.

 

 

 

 

18. Command "HIDE DETAILED PARTS"

 

Currently, after placing a part on a drawing using dwg styles, we use the custom command

Hide Identical Parts:

^C^C_AstM5equalpartsMarkSame \;AstM4CommSelectMarkedObjects ;_AstM4SwitchReprMode off;_AstM4CommUnmarkObjects;graphscr;redraw;

 

But if for some reason we have to show the entire model, and after that in order to hide what has been detailed, we have to search in the model browser.

 

A simple macro searching for # in part marks and hiding all other parts will be a handy time saver.

 

 

19. Quick View on Object to follow object's UCS / Model views to follow their default direction:

 

Per 2 screencast below, when a model view is activated, it is oriented per world UCS.

Since the reason for creating the view on first place is most likely we want to change or measure something when activated, the view should follow the model view direction.

I tried changing different variables with no success, if devs know how to let view on object and model views to follow their default direction, please advise.

If this is the expected behavior, then it has to be changed.

 

https://autode.sk/2HhWQoo

 

https://autode.sk/2HfOI7B

 

 

20. Batch plot drawings (and in the future-external list) to a destination folder

 

Batch plot drawings sends all drawings in the project folder if we use the document manager, very often they get mixed with other PDF's in the same folder, there should be an option to assign destination folder.

Batch plot using AutoCAD is an option, but since we Rev up and update dwgs from DM, it is logically true we want to plot them from DM.

 

21. EDIT / Delete revision for multiple drawings at once:

 

On a 300+d wgs, PM changes his / her mind and is asking for all drawings to get the previous revision.

We can't do this for all 300 dwgs at once, we have to edit the revisions for each dwgs.

 

Couple years ago Dumitru said he knows how to do it, please put this on your list.

 

 

In addition to Revving down option to be added for multiple drawings at once, we need to be able to Rev Up to the next revision for all dwgs at once. FOR BOTH DGWS HAVING LETTERS AND NUMBERS FOR NEXT REVISION.

 

Below are two screenshots-one before revving "TO THE NEXT AVAILABLE INDEX FOR EACH DOCUMENT" and the second one after using the "Rev to the next available index for each document"

 

To clarify how the normal revisions are indexed:

For approval-Rev.A, B, C etc. (it depends on fabricator, but per AISC Revisions should start from "A".)

For fabrication-Rev.0, 1 etc.

 

On a 550 dwgs project, if we press by error "next available revision index for each document" we get in an hour or two or more trouble because first next revisions ARE NOT the real next revisions as we can see from the 2 screenshots, and second trouble comes from the fact we cannot rev down all or multiple  dwgs at once.

In order to get the next revision index for the first 40-50 dwgs shown, we have to change the project settings-revision Control to 1, 2, 3...

Catch 22:

This will automatically put wrong revision for drawings that are still under approval, having letters A, B, etc for revision index.

THE ENTIRE SET-UP FOR REVISIONS IS DONE WRONG.

Not per AISC, and maybe not per other organizations as well.

 

Yes-there is a backup option and we can delete all dwgs and use the backup files, but registering the drawings is not always smooth having requests for updating.

 

Below are the 2 screenshots, drawings were revved up to the next available index, with project settings still at approval level A, B, C etc.

 

 

Revving up 05 16 19 1.jpgBefore revving upRevving up 05 16 19 2.jpg

 

 

23. "Power dimensions" for contour lines not part of a macro.

 

Ref. 2 examples below, it will be a timesaver having power dimensions for contour lines only, holes eliminated, NOT connected to any notch, cut or hole macro.

 

Power dimensions to contour lines-notches.jpgPower dimensions-contour lines-platesPower dimensions to contour lines-notches-beams.jpgPower Dimensions-Contour Lines - Beams

23. "Power dimensions" for contour lines not part of a macro-added

 

 

A proposed method for selection of points to be added automatically-probably by "press and drag", left to right.

 

This way points that are not located along the contour line we want to dimension won't be selected:

 

Power dimensions to contour lines-notches - selection method.jpg

 

 
 

24. HOLES FOR GALVANIZING-These holes not to be considered for dimensioning:

As you can see, default details are not "nice and shiny" unless we delete the dimension points referencing the holes for galvanizing.

 

06-24-19-holes for galvanizing.jpg

 

 

25. Add possibility to have manually placed labels on GA dwgs for SP (default - name) to have different default tokens than the default labels placed on MP dwgs (sp part mark)

 

26. Quick search dialog similar to Find in Autocad

Searchable parameters: MP, SP, Preliminary Number, Name, Length and Thickness, Material and user attributes, for beams, plates, and gratings; 

Pre-defined filters work, but they are slow,

project explorer helps, but it is incomplete and slows the work,

a simple search dialog for SP Marks and MP marks as a minimum is a must. 

 

 

 

Kind Regards,

Ilko Dimitrov

ACBS

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Message 21 of 49

acbsdesign
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41. PLEASE-when we make a change somewhere on Nth floor-Anchor bolts plan and details do need an update.

 

Anchor bolt plan and details have viewports let's say 24" from base plates.

So why TH anchor details will ask for an update when the change was made 50' away from the views.

 

@Gernot.Jeromin 

 

Christmas 2020 is next week, can you please make at least an effort to do something about this?

 

I see you guys don't care much, check is a check on Friday, who cares, right?

 

Wrong.

 

You have a competition, and they don't sleep at all.

 

A veteran AS user said recently, he is considering switching to another package, I don't know what they have said to him, but to see a veteran switching, it does not sound good.

 

You guys have the knife and the butter, try to be more human. 

 

And better educated regarding the products you are selling.

 

If you can.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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markhubrich
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Maybe they're not understanding our language. Lets try theirs 😄

 

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Regards,

Mark

...and fix the kiss export issues.
Message 23 of 49

dave_conibear
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lol

...and fix the kiss export issues.
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acbsdesign
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Message 27 of 49

sapch
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Very good advice!

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Message 28 of 49

Anonymous
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I don't think the speech he understands comes from this planet ... 

Message 29 of 49

markhubrich
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Lol, I wonder if the Advance Steel development team gets these Cortana emails. (name hidden to protect the inocent) 🙂

 

My Thursday's going to be a delight!My Thursday's going to be a delight!

...and fix the kiss export issues.
Message 30 of 49

Gernot.Jeromin
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Hi,
sorry that it took a while ... it's a quite long list.

To make it short we have tried to "categorize" the issues.

Some of them are on our roadmap, some we consider for later, and some of them are not on our list (for now).

This prioritization might change!

In a few cases we need more information to better understand what you are looking for exactly.

It will be tricky, somehow, to track each single item down from here.

 

  1. It is on our roadmap for a later release.
  2. We are in the process of collecting more information.
    There are different subjects and we need to split and tackle the separately as well.
  3. It is on our roadmap for a later release.
  4. This is something we didn’t hear a lot about. It would be great to get some more information about it.
  5. We consider it to put on the roadmap for a later release.
    It would be great to get some feedback from more customers here.
  6. We consider putting it on the roadmap for a later release.
  7. It is on our roadmap for a later release.
  8. If you are referring to camera detailing, there are some options possible. Not sure exactly what you are looking for.
  9. We might consider putting it on the roadmap for a later release.
  10. This is not on the roadmap for now. You have the option to use a manual cut instead as a workaround.
  11. This is not on the roadmap for now.
  12. We might consider putting it on the roadmap for a later release.
  13. We might consider putting it on the roadmap for a later release.
    Have you considered to use camera views instead of Elevation views?
  14. We consider putting on the roadmap for a later release.
  15. We consider putting on the roadmap for a later release.
  16. We consider putting on the roadmap for a later release.
  17. We put it on our roadmap for a later release.
  18. We put it on our roadmap for a later release.
  19. We might consider putting it on the roadmap for a later release.
  20. We put it on our roadmap for a later release.
  21. We might consider putting it on the roadmap for a later release.
  22. See above
  23. See above
  24. We will have a look at it.
  25. We are not sure what you are looking for exactly.
  26. We are not sure what you are looking for exactly.
  27. This is not on the roadmap for now.
  28. Not sure what the issue is, need more information.
  29. We need to check on it.
  30. Not sure what the issue is, need more information.
  31. It is on our roadmap for a later release. Maybe need additional clarification. See Multi-Leader-Line. 
  32. We consider putting on the roadmap for a later release.
  33. We consider putting on the roadmap for a later release.
  34. NA
  35. We might consider putting it on the roadmap for a later release.

 

I hope this will help for now.

Thanks a lot for your feedback!

 

Gernot

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Message 31 of 49

markhubrich
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For #24... 

We call these holes either "Weep holes", or "Vent holes".

Vent holes are for the galvanizing process only to allow proper flow and escape of galvanize. These get plugged after galv. 

 

Weep holes can double as Vent holes but they stay and don't get plugged. These are to allow moisture to escape during the life of the structure. 

 

 

 

...and fix the kiss export issues.
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SanjoyNath
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Dear Experts,

 

 

Since Advance Steel runs on Autocad and since dwg is Legacy standard which is overly matured , feature rich, Strongly Typed , Well Tested , Well Researched , Well managed objects and Types inside dwg structuring (Binary level) drawing file format so we all expected that Advance Steel will become have several intelligent features and

Interoperability with all other engineering softwares.

 

But still

1. Fabsuite , IFC , Multi user systems are deep issues for which it becomes necessary to use other softwares

2 Still it is too much dependent on Interoperability GTC COM components and windows

3. Still we cannot create models with simple scr (scripts) or lisp (lot of experts expected this from CAD) [ One secret here , Structural Engineers love to control things with staad like text file editing to get whole model done

(Fresh or edit data ) like batch mode with scr or lisp . We expected open source scr or vbs or powershell or c# macro or lisp for doing several tasks in single go on the models and drawings in single go. These could have direct interoperations with Document manager and with Model Browser . Advance Steel could overtake many others in the Industry because Advance Steel has dwg backbone . dxf components interoperaations in advance steel coud enforce world to work with Advance Steel because SAP or other ERP directly read write on dxf

 

3+

Document management was expected to work smart directly from the model selection and to and fro selections to control all revisions upgrades , Revisions cloudings . Several other steel detailing softwares who dont have powerful blessings of dwg formats could achieve these To and Fro selections from the models to drawings. Automated updation, Force Updation etc. Single points control for all documents etc are still concerns

 

3++ Other steel detailing softwares copied the idea of Dynamic blocks from CAD so we expected Custom Component making in the Advance Steel will behave more smarter but Advance Steel could not do that because it is still running with P/Invoke and Interoperability with GTC COM components rigidly

 

6. Too much of sql server dependent architecture enfoircing steel detailing companies to hire and keep API and software development teams to get small things

 

One more big thing

Since pdfimport and textshxpdf are great features of Autocad , we could expect automated design document reading and filtering out of Steel components , smarter visual jobber (Calculations of multi standard dimensions to show on imported design documents and also automated native dimensions and features convertions from the raster (As in Autodesks other great softwares) we expected that these will appear in the Advance Steel as additional features.

When i (as a novice programmer could do these on your polylines of imported pdf through polygons optimization ,then you surely could do that inbuilt inside Advance Steel) We could cheer if we could these automated design document reading from Raster or vector design documents .

 

Numbering controling , Numbering Analyser are also very necessary (We expected some freedom to control numbering and also xslt editor WYSWYG like things for your Active reports such that we could keep track of handles , ObjectID , GUID of the items in the models and drawing objects in the reports such that model objects are hyperlinkable from the Active Reports) We expected the pdf export from the Advance Steel can have hyperlinks to model objects and nc files and also on shop drawings since Autocad has its own pdfexport frameworks

Sanjoy Nath
BIM Manager And Digital Lead (Structures Online)
BOOST, AR , VR ,EPM,IFC API,PDF API , CAD API ,Revit API , Advance Steel API
Founder of Geometrifying Trigonometry(C)
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leslie.lees
Advocate
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Wow, I really feel for you guys.  That response from Gernot basically said nothing, absolutely naf all.

 

This is the third and final year I'll be checking these forums to see if there has been any improvement, and considering the progress made on Revit, you've had chicken feed, probably not even that.

 

Every project is a complete work around from start to finish.

 

And to be honest you've been promised very little, and got even less.

In Mar/Apr my ACAD ADV shortcut goes.   So glad I never bothered with it.

 

Message 34 of 49

Gernot.Jeromin
Alumni
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Hi,
as I mentioned, it is tricky to replay to such list with about 35 items.

Some of them are on our roadmap, other not yet.

However, it doesn't say this is all we are working on.

There are requests on our list which are not listed here, i.e. captive nuts or nested / multi-level assemblies, STEP export for hollow sections (just to mention a few of them).

If you let me know where you need additional information, I will try to add some.

It is a good list though, thanks for sharing!

 

I hope this will help.

 

Gernot

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acbsdesign
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@Gernot.Jeromin 

Thank you for getting back to us, 

I understand-it is hard to answer all questions, some need more clarification.

I will comment in Bold, not sure why but color does not always work.

 

  1. It is on our roadmap for a later release. Thank you-This is a must
  2. We are in the process of collecting more information.
    There are different subjects and we need to split and tackle the separately as well. New command for linear and sloped dimensions, separate from what we have now. Command-select first point-select any hole that is part of a pattern, and rest holes to be added to this dimension chain without selecting each one individually. This may work with any object that is part of a pattern.
  3. It is on our roadmap for a later release. THANK YOU.
  4. This is something we didn’t hear a lot about. It would be great to get some more information about it. Imagine if you need to move only one end of a beam that is sloped. Having the proposed will give us an option to move one end up, down left or right by modifying the properties of the system line end point. Believe me on this one-will be a little game changer. Users will like it. If it is hard to do, ok, I understand.
  5. We consider it to put on the roadmap for a later release. It would be great to get some feedback from more customers here. This is a must, Thank you. Similar to "dimension to be above and not below"  in dimension requests properties, a line to be added-"text above or below dimension line" or similar, so we can switch side of the text in the DSM.
  6. We consider putting it on the roadmap for a later release.-Thank you.
  7. It is on our roadmap for a later release. This will change how we clean up drawings-it will be an absolute help. Thank you.
  8. If you are referring to camera detailing, there are some options possible. Not sure exactly what you are looking for. So this is a little pain for some fabricators. They want MP to start from 1, and erection drawings to start from 1 too. What happens is, if I detail a few leveling plates 1P1, 1P2 etc, the first erection drawing will start from the next number-2, it will be E2 if we use processes. Not a big deal for most, but for some is an issue, because this is how their PM software is set up. And look from shop's point of view-instead of marking all parts 1B1, 2B1, etc, they have to start from 100B1, 101B1 etc., 2 digits added for each beam 1 to 99. Probably won't be that hard to allow GA dwgs to run on a separate thread, so E1, E2, E3... exist and we can have 1B1, 2B1, 3B1 etc.
  9. We might consider putting it on the roadmap for a later release.-TIME SAVER-PLEASE IMPLEMENT.
  10. This is not on the roadmap for now. You have the option to use a manual cut instead as a workaround. Answer is not good, Gernot-not an answer of a detailer. And I try to be polite.
  11. This is not on the roadmap for now. SAME-this is what makes a difference between software somehow done, and well done software.
  12. We might consider putting it on the roadmap for a later release. Not a good answer. We need this.
  13. We might consider putting it on the roadmap for a later release. We really need this.-please.
    Have you considered to use camera views instead of Elevation views? This is what I am talking about-if we need to connect Camera and text where is this camera located, we need to type "Elevation at Grid Line X" in camera properties. I wish I could yell and to be heard-we need this-what is so hard to understand - we need it. 
  14. We consider putting on the roadmap for a later release. 13, 14 and 15 to be combined together.
  15. We consider putting on the roadmap for a later release.
  16. We consider putting on the roadmap for a later release.-Yet-another example why dev's should have a detailer in house.
  17. We put it on our roadmap for a later release. Thank you.
  18. We put it on our roadmap for a later release. DONE, Thank you.
  19. We might consider putting it on the roadmap for a later release. DONE, Thank you. It seems you either don't follow what is done, or just copy and paste without reading it. But anyway, I appreciate the effort.
  20. We put it on our roadmap for a later release. Thank you.
  21. We might consider putting it on the roadmap for a later release. MIGHT is a lousy word, Gernot, it sounds like you don't care much at all. Ask someone with heavy workflow, he or she will say the same-we need this.
  22. See above
  23. See above
  24. We will have a look at it. There should be an option these holes NOT to be dimensioned, we tried a few workarounds, but there is always some kind of limitation., Not a big deal, but for some projects it is time-consuming. 
  25. We are not sure what you are looking for exactly. This is needed when we add labels to fab dwgs, lets say SP plates to be SP mark. In GA dwgs, SP are labeled with Name only, so we have to change defaults -label-Change-change to Name etc. So what we are proposing having two set-ups for manual labels-for SP/MP dwgs and for GA dwgs. If it is hard to do, ok, I understand. Thank you.
  26. We are not sure what you are looking for exactly. Another copy and paste job-Gernot-please-is searching using filters (even pre-defined) quick? NO. Is searching in Model Browser fast, yes, but not always handy. If you need to find a file called "Spring is coming" in Windows what you would do? I would type "spring" in search and press Enter. I will find quickly what I need, and I will have time for a German made beverage consumed loudly in October. 
  27. Imagine you have a beam with 15 stiffeners on both sides (bridge stringer). Now imagine you need section views through each stiffener. Now-imagine you have produced the MP dwg with 15 section views, but Advance is cutting first the Third stiffener left to right, after that first, after that last, all scattered here and there. This is not how bridges are done, there should be an order of how section views (Beam section for example) are labeled / numbered, so section A-A will be the first selected stiffener, B-B-second selected stiffener, etc.
  28. Some of this is actually under NDA. You are not aware what and where it is happening. Thank you Dev's.
  29. This is not on the roadmap for now. Not good, but we can live without it.
  30. Not sure what the issue is, need more information.-This is improvement for aesthetics, it is probably hard to do, but in general distance between dimension chain is 3/8", and first dimension to contour line is 1/2", we were wandering id=f we can get some kind of snapping when we move dimensions lose to these points.
  31. We need to check on it. Done, Thank you.
  32. Not sure what the issue is, need more information. 9x3-5/16 mathematically is 2'-5 13/16", but the real dimension is actually 2'-5 9/16" on the screenshot due to chain reaction of 3 5/16 not being exactly 3 5/16. AS is multiplying the 3 5/16" dimension, but not considering the REAL overall dimension. This is an everyday task for detailers doing stairs and railings. This has to be fixed.
  33. It is on our roadmap for a later release. Maybe need additional clarification. See Multi-Leader-Line. This is not Multileader, nothing to do with it. It seems you can frustrate more than it is necessary with your knowledge and experience. Or lack of it.
  34. We consider putting on the roadmap for a later release.
  35. We consider putting on the roadmap for a later release.
  36. NA
  37. We might consider putting it on the roadmap for a later release. Thank you.

 

 

Overall, Gernot, not bad, considering 2020 was a terrible year.

 

I, personally, think you have to spend more time with steel detailing.

 

Learn the software first, and model and detail a few very small projects. One small building, and one stair project.

 

Just to get an idea how it is done. 

 

Take care.

 

 

 

If this information was helpful, please use the Accept as Solution function, this makes it easier for other users.

Regards,
Ilko Dimitrov, IDC-1, M. Eng.
Tekla and Advance Steel Detailer
ACBS Structural Steel Detailing

If it is made of steel, I can model it and detail it.

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markhubrich
Advisor
Advisor

I think "Future Consideration" sounds more like a political answer. Considering that on the Ideas board there are many of those from the far past that never came about. The future is now! https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/advance-steel-ideas/update-advance-steel-kiss-standards/idc-p/9081216...

 

 

...and fix the kiss export issues.
Message 37 of 49

acbsdesign
Mentor
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@markhubrich 

I know it is hard for a team to respond to all users, and to make everything happen overnight, what I see is at least desire to implement most of the items.

List is far from perfect, but most of the items will make our work easier, faster, with less human error, or with improved aesthetics.

 

If this information was helpful, please use the Accept as Solution function, this makes it easier for other users.

Regards,
Ilko Dimitrov, IDC-1, M. Eng.
Tekla and Advance Steel Detailer
ACBS Structural Steel Detailing

If it is made of steel, I can model it and detail it.

acbs-usa.com | Helpful Place



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Message 38 of 49

Anonymous
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Hi @acbsdesign ,

 

you are the BOSS 😎😉

Message 39 of 49

acbsdesign
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@Anonymous 

No, Sir, I don’t want to be.

If this information was helpful, please use the Accept as Solution function, this makes it easier for other users.

Regards,
Ilko Dimitrov, IDC-1, M. Eng.
Tekla and Advance Steel Detailer
ACBS Structural Steel Detailing

If it is made of steel, I can model it and detail it.

acbs-usa.com | Helpful Place



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Message 40 of 49

ZHUKOV_ING
Advocate
Advocate

Hi..

 

Go check Titan plugin from Светослав Нинов (Svetoslav Ninov), nice fetaures.. In the last update (ver 1.7) he provided camera numbering...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Orib4F9Gwk 

 

 

 

 

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