Single part label formatting (Stacked diagonal fractions for imperial angles, small "x" between numbers)

[-CraigZ-]

Using AS 2022. I'm currently working on modifying the part labels to suit our needs, and I'm struggling with a couple things:

-Stacked diagonal fractions for imperial section names (Eg. L3 1/2x3 1/2x3/8. I would like to stack all of these fractions diagonally)

-Changing the "X" between Section Size and Weight to be lower case instead (C10x15.3 instead of C10X15.3)

-If the fraction can be stacked diagonally, I'd also like to remove the space between the whole number and the fraction to shrink the label size a bit.

See pictures below. Red is current state. Green is desired state.

Even if I have to go through one of the tables and manually change every section name to make it happen, that's alright. I'd rather spend the time doing something once that will keep us from having to use a workaround or manually change something every time. Point me to the right items to change and I'll make it happen.

If anyone has some insight on any of these challenges I'm facing, please let me know. Thanks!

[mwwm]

Backup your data first, since I didn't test it yet....I could mislead you.

I will try to Modify AstorProfiles table. Use ms uni code to create stack format in your model space text and copy to Astor Profiles table. the "X" is just a change of uppercase/lowercase.

[johnjmbennett]

Hi @-CraigZ- ,

just to warn that changing the core data entry in the main database astorprofiles maybe not the best solution.

Previously I have done the kind of thing, but using the external name method, creating data entries that link to the external name token, then changing the labelling to reflect this token use.

I think you will find that the naming to the section, is aligned to follow the standards associated with that country governing body.

https://www.aisc.org/globalassets/aisc/manual/v15.0-shapes-database/naming-convention-for-structural...

the key point here is the data exchange and that is reliant in many cases upon the core name of the profile, so there are standards here that should be considered.

HTH

[mwwm]

Sorry, my bad, I should be clear about using the name token which in John's previous post. My all profile extrusions are customized....

[johnjmbennett]

Please see this thread for some help on the use of the external name:

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/advance-steel-forum/standard-name-and-section-name-for-insert-label-a...

[bigcarl5000kg]

learn and use mapping for external name in drawings and BOMs (see Management tools/ Table editor / load database and search for MapInternToExtern

[-CraigZ-]

Thanks all. Will look into these when I get a chance and report back.

[-CraigZ-]

@johnjmbennett @bigcarl5000kg 

This is great, thanks guys! Couple questions:

1) I have LOTS of lines to add to this table (Imperial was about 1800 lines and I still have Metric to do since we use both here depending on the client).

Is there any way of adding many lines all at once? Seems like I have to go into the blank "Key" column, type my number, then enter, then the next number, etc. ("1", "Enter", "2", "Enter", "3", "Enter", etc.) Once I have the lines entered, I can do a big copy/paste from Excel, but I can't find a quicker way to add many lines. It's fine to add a hundred lines manually, but 1800 lines took me quite a while to type out every single number.

2) I realize that stacked diagonal fractions may not be "standard", but that's what I'm being requested to do to match client standards. Is there a way to get all the way up to 16th fractions stacked diagonally? I've found using the symbols in ascii tables don't have 16th inch increments, and everything except 1/4 and 1/2 are showing up as "?" on labels. (See picture below, note the "?" in the labels.)

Is this the point where my options become either:

-Accept that AS labels won't do stacked diagonal fractions

-Use manual text/leaders for all labels

Let me know what you think when you get a chance. Thanks!