PFC to PFC with gal holes

[jcapenecas]

Hi all, in Advance Steel I am trying to find a efficient and effective way to create a welded connection between two PFC's in the orientation shown in the bellow screenshot. I also need it to have a gal drain hole as shown as well as being user friendly when coping the connection to many other instances.  

The attached picture shows both the connection without any treatments and the one with the gal holes, tho the one with gal holes are only an indication of what I'm trying to replicate and is not a effective connection that I can transfer to other instances.  

[Sebastian_Eiche]

try the moment connection:

[jcapenecas]

I have tried the moment connection with the backing bar removed but when the backing bar is removed it looses the welded connection so no weldment. 

If I was to then add a weld and turn it into a custom connection I found it far to clunky inserting the custom connections as I had to make new connections to overcome the issue of different member orientations. 

[Sebastian_Eiche]

the custom connection should work without problems, you create an example for us?

Maybe you use a double joint, not only using the weld as itself. I would maybe use the "cut on object" and then combine this with the moment connection to a user connection.

[jcapenecas]

I have quickly thrown together a similar scenario with my custom connection and a simple frame with the PFC in multiple orientation which is similar to what I require for my current structure. 

You can see that the connection I have created gets imputed in incorrect orientations in a few places. I have read that this can be due to the method I initially use to lay down the members in the first place and that its often requires to make multiple custom connections of the same connection to cover all the orientation possibilities and I have tried that on my project and found I was up to 4 templates for the same connection and still getting the connection being places in space when being placed. It was also a very counter productive process as I not only needed to create multiple templates for the same connection but in order to find which of the many templates I had created will work for the orientation was a process of trial and error of placing them all in one by one, deleting and repeating until I find the right combination.

Very time consuming when there are many instances of the same connection. I also don't see why it should be so orientation dependent when you initially lay the member down, as orientation doesn't matter standard connections from the library are used.  
Whether or not it makes a difference, the process I used to start the project was by bringing in a wireframe of the structure I created in Inventor over to Advance Steel then using the beam on line command to place all my members. 

[Sebastian_Eiche · Accepted solution]

I think you misunderstood me. 
you could do the following:

• create the moment connection 
• use the command weld to weld the beams together
• don't delete the joint box of the momentconnection
• create a userconnection including the momentconnection and the weld

Maybe the weld is not placed correct, but after ticking the box for allow to change the connection, you could move the weld symbol