Part & Assembly Numbers does not match Drawing numbers after edits

Part & Assembly Numbers does not match Drawing numbers after edits

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Part & Assembly Numbers does not match Drawing numbers after edits

Ignus.E
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Has anyone encountered this problem or found a workaround for this. When numbering a model for the 1 ste time - with Drawing Number method (and reuse unused numbers unchecked) and then creating the single part and assembly drawings all seems to be fine (Part & Assembly numbers match drawing numbers). Then after editing a part, for example merge a beam that was initially split. Update the document manager, run the numbering again and create the new drawing for the newly formed part, then the part number and the drawing number seems not to match anymore. It seems to start adding a counter in from of the part number as seen in the attachment. This behavior also seems to be random. On certain parts it will add a counter and on certain parts the new number will just be the same as the drawing number. This occurred over several models, so not specific model related. Thanks very much 

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@Ignus.E wrote:

Has anyone encountered this problem or found a workaround for this. When numbering a model for the 1 ste time - with Drawing Number method (and reuse unused numbers unchecked) and then creating the single part and assembly drawings all seems to be fine (Part & Assembly numbers match drawing numbers). Then after editing a part, for example merge a beam that was initially split. Update the document manager, run the numbering again and create the new drawing for the newly formed part, then the part number and the drawing number seems not to match anymore. It seems to start adding a counter in from of the part number as seen in the attachment. This behavior also seems to be random. On certain parts it will add a counter and on certain parts the new number will just be the same as the drawing number. This occurred over several models, so not specific model related. Thanks very much 


Hi,

It is taking the next counter, M1031 was the original, now it is M1 (1 is the counter)1031, so probably a better way would be activate 'reuse of unused marks'.

 

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Thanks for the feedback. The idea that I had here was that if a part was already issued for comments as an I section for example, and that part is now no longer needed. If we change it to reused unused number it might be that an angle will receive that part number later on and if that also gets issued no that might cause confusion since previous it was an I section and now the same number is an angle.

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Hi,

Angle and I-Beam would have different prefixes, this is the practice here in The USA.

And it does make sense.

 

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Ok, I think the first MP was sent to another dwg.

Or it was not properly deleted, and or bak file still present.

Delete the .bak file of the first MP.

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Ignus.E
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Thanks for the reply, I will go and have a look at this.

Thanks very much

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Also, just to add, it happens if BOM on a dwg is not updated after detail is deleted and dwg is snot saved.

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Ignus.E
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The DM is up to date and no old bak. file in the folder.

Ive made a short video indicate the problem.

Thanks very much

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Hi, 

I am not sure why this is your workflow, if you need new Sp or MP to become again M1032, then you have to activate reuse unused marks.

 I don't see any issue with it.

I tested it on my side, it is working exactly as yours is working. This is the way software is numbering the parts.

 

As I said before, if you need new part to be without counter, you need to activate the reuse unused marks.

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Hi, Thanks for the reply.

Ive added another video to show what im trying to achieve. In the video ive place a column, numbered (with reuse- unticked) and then created the drawing (M1000). Lets say, this has now been issued for comments. After the comments its decided that the column will no longer be used. So then we draw another column in a different part of the building and number again and create the drawing again. Now I get M1100 as part number and M1000 for the drawing number. My expectation would have been that the new column should now be M1001 since M1000 is now removed from the project and not to be reused. If this makes sense.

Thanks very much

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Hi,

 

You have to delete SP and MP prior to deleting the object.

 

Have a great day.

 

 

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Ignus.E
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Hi, Sorry for the delay in response and thanks for your last reply.

I tried it with deleting the drawing 1ste and then the object but still same results.

 

It look like the best approach will be leave the re-use unused numbers ticked, and if the number is to be reused then it can be, but if you want to skip the unused number to look at the latest number in the model browser and then enter the next number in the drawing process numbering option. If that makes sense.

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