Mirroring Handrails are complete opposite and different orientation

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Mirroring Handrails are complete opposite and different orientation

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I'm on AS2016 and building 2 stair towers and I'm trying to mirror the whole structure and I'm running into issues with the handrails. All the steel  is fine except the handrails. I also selected all the connection boxes.

The stairs with the post on the outside are the correct way. See the picture when i mirrored, the post and railing went onto the inside, plus all the angles are different orientation. I've never ran into this issue before and I'm sure there's something I'm doing wrong. 

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acbsdesign
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Hi,

This is normal.

Take a deep breath and try to copy and rotate the stairs at 180 degrees. 

 

Cheers.

 

 

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I have the whole stair tower above that and if i rotate 180, then all the tiers will have different entrances to the structure. Pic below on the right tower, just need to mirror that to the left side.

Thanks for the quick reply

 

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acbsdesign
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Can you explode the railing macro and mirror stairs and railings.

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Hi,

 

Tried with post alignment Top, it allows us to move post left and right with no issue, then we will have to add length to the posts, which is easy and fast.

 

The connection to the stringer will have to be a custom connection, but again not that bad, it is faster than creating all rails again. So when mirror, change the post alignment to TOP, make a polyline on top of the stringer, offset the poly down and extend to line the posts.

 

Rail 1 .jpgRail 2.jpg

 

 

 

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acbsdesign
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Hi, 

 

If posts are angle, we can adjust the orientation: 

 

 

rail 5.jpg

rail 6.jpg

 

I don't have your macro, but if the only issue is rail is offset on the opposite side, using left or right and rotating the posts ad adjusting the connection plates should work.

 

 

 

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@Anonymous wrote:

I'm on AS2016 and building 2 stair towers and I'm trying to mirror the whole structure and I'm running into issues with the handrails. All the steel  is fine except the handrails. I also selected all the connection boxes.

The stairs with the post on the outside are the correct way. See the picture when i mirrored, the post and railing went onto the inside, plus all the angles are different orientation. I've never ran into this issue before and I'm sure there's something I'm doing wrong. 

 


 

 

Hi,

 

I have the solution for your case, you made me think last night what is the fastest way to do this 🙂

It has to be done in two steps:

 

Screencast-Mirror Railings with stair 

 

Have a great day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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oh wow, so you have to go in increments? 

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acbsdesign
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Whatever it takes, maybe 30 seconds or so if stairs are isolated.

 

Otherwise, as I said, take a deep breath and start adjusting after mirroring.

 

 

 

 

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For sure. I'm working on it now. I'll give you an update. Thanks!

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I see when you first mirror it, the handrails are messed up. The second time you mirror it, it works, but you're back to the original orientation.

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So, from your video at the start, i see the stairs going up, from left to right, but when you finish, the stairs are going up right to left. it needs to be left to right.

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ouch,  I assumed the stairs will start the same way on both sides of the structure. 

 

It has to be adjusted with Post Alignment, left or right.

 

Screencast 

 

 

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I went ahead and corrected each railing post, plus handrails to the correct orientation and left or right. I figured there would be a quicker way of doing it, but this honestly didn't take too long. Thanks for the help

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We use Terminus to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Terminus. Ads are based on both Terminus data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Terminus has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Terminus to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Terminus Privacy Policy
StackAdapt
We use StackAdapt to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by StackAdapt. Ads are based on both StackAdapt data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that StackAdapt has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to StackAdapt to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. StackAdapt Privacy Policy
The Trade Desk
We use The Trade Desk to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by The Trade Desk. Ads are based on both The Trade Desk data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that The Trade Desk has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to The Trade Desk to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. The Trade Desk Privacy Policy
RollWorks
We use RollWorks to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by RollWorks. Ads are based on both RollWorks data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that RollWorks has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to RollWorks to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. RollWorks Privacy Policy

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