Lattice Steel Structure- Substation Structures

Lattice Steel Structure- Substation Structures

Janeth_95
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Lattice Steel Structure- Substation Structures

Janeth_95
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Hi 


I am new with the software I use robot structural analysis to design lattice structures for electrical substations, and I saw that robot and advance steel can work together to design steel conections and plates once that I have complet the design in Robot Structural, Does any of you know where I can find videos that explained how to used to design bolted connections with angles and plates for this type of structures

 

I have saw the conecctions templates of advance steel but most of them are for W, HSSQ and C profile. 

I have attached some picture of the structures that I work

 

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Sebastian_Eiche
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As I know this should be no problem, a few conenctions are working great with these situation.
From experience with customers, the connection "directly bolted" is your best friend ;-).
Maybe @bigcarl5000kg could have a few more information


Sebastian Eiche
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bigcarl5000kg
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Hi @Janeth_95 ,

 

in your case, all the parts probably have parallel surfaces connected, which makes your work easier when making the connection.

 

You can use the whole range of existing tools in AS Connection Vault (bracing on 1, 2 or 3 diagonals; directly bolted; ...) - here my German version ... it works nice also for L-profiles

 

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or from AS Tool Palette (e.g. bolt on beam = super and often underrated tool)

 

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But most transmission towers (eg. here in Europe) do not have such a luck, the connected surfaces are not parallel ...  and then the fun begins. In this case, a lot of screw connections have to be created manually, or whenever possible in a group.

 

You can directly save user definitions for existing macros (logical connections in AS Connection Vault) in a internal table and simply apply them to others if necessary.

 

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However, when I read the beginning of your thread, I would first start with the basic course of Advance Steel and then go into the more complex things - otherwise you will be fumbling for a very long time and maybe you will skip some basic things completely, which you will miss in the end.

 

Then you can afford something like that:

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+++ the only constant is the change +++ stay tuned for more +++
+++ since 03/2023 is Advance Steel in maintenance mode, no further development +++
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bigcarl5000kg
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Most of them are actually created manually, because each connection is so unique that there is no macro in Advance Steel or user template possible (too much possible combinations). 

 

It will definitely change in the future, if only with the help of different Plugins for Advance Steel.

+++ impossible immediately and miracles within 3 days +++
+++ the only constant is the change +++ stay tuned for more +++
+++ since 03/2023 is Advance Steel in maintenance mode, no further development +++
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avinash00002002
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Hi! I am in a same industry since last 26 years, AS is not designed for steel structure and substation structure. it give us lot of pain. rather than I am using other software for preparing this type of structure. there is a only special module  for lattice structures. like plan view, cross arms, hip bracing, bracings, etc..

 

Avinash

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bigcarl5000kg
Advisor
Advisor

Hi, I know  at this point eg. Tekla Structures is much, much further, but it doesn't have many other good things like AS.I am currently working in AS direct with a complete model from a static calculation, so a lot of modeling goes away thanks to that.

+++ impossible immediately and miracles within 3 days +++
+++ the only constant is the change +++ stay tuned for more +++
+++ since 03/2023 is Advance Steel in maintenance mode, no further development +++
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bigcarl5000kg
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It makes no sense to me to use two or more overpriced SWs

+++ impossible immediately and miracles within 3 days +++
+++ the only constant is the change +++ stay tuned for more +++
+++ since 03/2023 is Advance Steel in maintenance mode, no further development +++
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ZHUKOV_ING
Advocate
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If you are designing lattice towers keep this in mind:

 

1. Forget connecting and transfering info from Robot to AdvanceSteel

2. Forget using macros for connections Screenshot_1.pngScreenshot_2.pngScreenshot_3.pngScreenshot_4.png

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Flies-Eyes
Advisor
Advisor

Not sure what causes your issues with RSA but I have advocating that objects need a permanent vector for the centroid and separate (system) line for setout.

 

We have done some connection analysis testing with IdeaStatica with reasonable success. Anchors gave us grief.

 

If constantly building workaround solutions for AdS wasn't a time killer enough add, annual migrations, learning SQL Server management,  C#, Python, Dynamo, .NET, IFC, just to develop some macros and the  novelty wears thin pretty quickly when clients are demanding their completed projects.

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