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Having Difficulty Changing Scale of View in Shop Drawing

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alex.sample
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Having Difficulty Changing Scale of View in Shop Drawing

alex.sample
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Hello,

 

I am having some trouble adjusting the scale of a view in a column drawing I'm working with. As it currently generates, it is too long to fit on the page. 

alexsample_1-1636128463821.png

 

If I double click the green box around the view to edit the detail, I have the option to change the scale

alexsample_2-1636128532858.png

 

However if I select a different value, this is what happens:

 

alexsample_3-1636128629317.png

I lost all information that I previously had on the detail. If I change back to the original scale it also doesn't return. Does anyone know a solution to this? One possible work around could just be to use a larger size sheet size, but frankly I think it would look kind of ridiculous as the smaller details would just be miniscule on it.

 

Thanks

Having Difficulty Changing Scale of View in Shop Drawing

Hello,

 

I am having some trouble adjusting the scale of a view in a column drawing I'm working with. As it currently generates, it is too long to fit on the page. 

alexsample_1-1636128463821.png

 

If I double click the green box around the view to edit the detail, I have the option to change the scale

alexsample_2-1636128532858.png

 

However if I select a different value, this is what happens:

 

alexsample_3-1636128629317.png

I lost all information that I previously had on the detail. If I change back to the original scale it also doesn't return. Does anyone know a solution to this? One possible work around could just be to use a larger size sheet size, but frankly I think it would look kind of ridiculous as the smaller details would just be miniscule on it.

 

Thanks

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johnjmbennett
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within the drawing style, there should be a Clip option to cut out sections of the beam that have nothing happening, this shortens the column in the drawing, but keeps the Dimensions correct to overall length.
look under the Clip tan and see if you can set the Clip for he Y direction. ( TBH thought this would be set by default, for a column that is set to detail in the vertical direction on the drawing sheet)

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within the drawing style, there should be a Clip option to cut out sections of the beam that have nothing happening, this shortens the column in the drawing, but keeps the Dimensions correct to overall length.
look under the Clip tan and see if you can set the Clip for he Y direction. ( TBH thought this would be set by default, for a column that is set to detail in the vertical direction on the drawing sheet)

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alex.sample
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Clipping is purposely turned off here. Our production team prefers it this way. Do you know of a way to just change the scale? Thanks

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Clipping is purposely turned off here. Our production team prefers it this way. Do you know of a way to just change the scale? Thanks

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If you select the green frame that appears around the drawing view, then if you double click it should open the properties and you should be able to change the scale of the view under view properties


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If you select the green frame that appears around the drawing view, then if you double click it should open the properties and you should be able to change the scale of the view under view properties


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alex.sample
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Correct. I showed some screenshots above of what happens when I do that. This is what the drawing changes to when I adjust the scale like that.

alexsample_0-1636133041576.png

 

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Correct. I showed some screenshots above of what happens when I do that. This is what the drawing changes to when I adjust the scale like that.

alexsample_0-1636133041576.png

 

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Can you share the drawing and the model at all, to test etc.

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Can you share the drawing and the model at all, to test etc.

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Unfortunately, I'm not able to share the files of the company I work for. I did run a test though where I copied the columns into another file, numbered them, and than generated drawings. Editing the scale worked completely fine. So I think it may be some sort of bug. As far as I know I haven't changed any settings

Unfortunately, I'm not able to share the files of the company I work for. I did run a test though where I copied the columns into another file, numbered them, and than generated drawings. Editing the scale worked completely fine. So I think it may be some sort of bug. As far as I know I haven't changed any settings

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I just ran into the same issue, thank you for posting the steps you did to resolve the problem!

I just ran into the same issue, thank you for posting the steps you did to resolve the problem!
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alex.sample
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Hey, I actually do have another solution to this now besides just starting a new file that works most of the time. (I got an email you commented)

 

Save your detail with the new scale. Then go to your project folder and find the folder that says "Databases" and delete everything in there. "dbDescs" will regenerate if you update or create a new drawing. After you've done that, go to your document manager and force update the drawing that you've changed the scale on. This should fix it. If it doesn't, I've found the best course of action to be just to entirely delete the drawing and regenerate it with the scale you now know you need. It's a pretty irritating bug. I've found they also generate that way if you create too many details at the same time. So I'll do them in batches while deleting the database files in between.

 

Hey, I actually do have another solution to this now besides just starting a new file that works most of the time. (I got an email you commented)

 

Save your detail with the new scale. Then go to your project folder and find the folder that says "Databases" and delete everything in there. "dbDescs" will regenerate if you update or create a new drawing. After you've done that, go to your document manager and force update the drawing that you've changed the scale on. This should fix it. If it doesn't, I've found the best course of action to be just to entirely delete the drawing and regenerate it with the scale you now know you need. It's a pretty irritating bug. I've found they also generate that way if you create too many details at the same time. So I'll do them in batches while deleting the database files in between.

 

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Thank you, I actually had one of my supervisors open the file and it started working properly, might be related to them having the base model open? Who knows! I appreciate your help 🙂
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Thank you, I actually had one of my supervisors open the file and it started working properly, might be related to them having the base model open? Who knows! I appreciate your help 🙂

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