Green Detail Frame suddenly printing

[billingtondetailing]

So the other day I went through some of the Advance Steel settings and may have changed something to cause this but I can't seem to find what did it. Now, when I create drawings, the prototypes are defaulting to have the "Detail Frame" layer plotting turned on. So I end up with black squares around everything when I plot, unless I remember to change every drawing's layer settings.

I've asked Graitec for help and their answer was to open every prototype I have, manually add that "detail frame" layer, then set it to not print; rather than letting AS add it automatically. I have 50+ prototypes so I'm hoping someone may know the setting I've screwed up or at least a shortcut to achieving this as I believe it may be faster for me to reset to defaults (ugh).

Thanks in advance!

[johnjmbennett · Accepted solution]

hi, 

assume you are in Standard drawings not exploded.

if the frames are visible all the time in the drawing view,  you may have changed the Default settings to turn on the visibility, of the frame,  which means it will show all the time.

Management tools>Defaults>Drawing General>General>Detail frame Visibility

 

Also the show green frames in details, check this setting.

Management tools>Defaults>Drawing General>General>Show Green frames in Details ,  

Try to check the settings of these an see if the drawing goes, when you plot the drawing.

to search in the Defaults, use the filter,  type 'Frame', it will shorten the listings. 

Cheers

[Sebastian_Eiche]

I think the threadstarter will not plot the detailframes and therefore the detailframes had to set to "nonplot".
But I think it would be easier to set another layer. You could change the defaultlayer for detailframes to "NoPlottingLayer"  --I think the inner detail frames are autmatic set to this layer.

So in the default setting:

[billingtondetailing]

Thanks for the reply, Sebastian.

I changed the setting as you advised, but then realized that now it just creates the "noplottinglayer" similar to how it did the "detailframe" layer, with plotting turned on. The only layer I have on my prototypes that doesn't plot is the "hidden" layer. I could try to set the detail frames to default to that layer instead? If not, I'm kind of at the same point I was at the beginning and would have to make a no plotting layer for each prototype.

Or am I missing something? 

[Sebastian_Eiche]

Do you use the exact naming? You could have a look in your already existing details which layer is set to non plot. In my case this was the one I wrote to you. But it is maybe different from version to version. Which version do you use and which country installation?

[billingtondetailing · Accepted solution]

Thanks for the time, John!

I've messed with all of these setting to no avail before posting. However, after seeing your post I decided to give it another (more-thorough) whack.

The issue was I was not re-creating the drawing after making these changes. I had a newly created drawing with the frames plotting. I changed the first setting you mentioned "Detail Frame Visibility" in ASMT -> Drawing-General->General toggling it to unchecked. I then deleted the drwg and recreated. Now when the detailframe layer is created, it's not plotting.

Checking the box again, reloading DB, and re-opening the drawing changes nothing, still not-plotting.

However, deleting and re-creating the drawing, will again add the detailframe layer with plotting turned on. Sounds like this is our culprit.

Boy when they say "always show" I guess they mean it!

Thanks again for the help!

[billingtondetailing]

I did just that. My only default "plotting turned off" layer was the "hidden" layer. There wasn't a no plotting, non-plotting, or anything like that. I'm using the USA 2021 version.

However it seems I've found the issue thanks to the other posters help 🙂

Thank you!