Hi,
I'm having an issue regarding creating accurate Lists on drawings when making a marking plan using a camera.
The List is displaying the quantities of all parts in the model instead of the parts shown only in the camera.
The have also selected items for the camera to see only, and still the list is displaying all the quantities.
Please Help.
Thanks,
Julius Gismondi
Hi, It appears this is how the software works.
If you type BOM on details in help, this is what is returned:
Here is an example where a simple model is used to highlight the two commands which create Bills of Material on a drawing, and the respective outputs: Insert a Details List and Insert a Drawing list.
An elevation was created at the first axis (Axis 1).
In case of a partial overview that has been created using a drawing style using the Complete model or Complete model with Xrefs options in the Model objects selection (from the Drawing Style Manager), the bills of material created on this view will contain all the objects from the model, not only the ones included in the Detail box.
Bills of material created for this type of partial overview will have a warning text placed at the bottom, explaining that the content of the bill is inconsistent with the content of the partial overview. This text is part of the bill of material, sharing the same text style and moving together with the list, and cannot be removed.
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Notice that, even if the position marks A2 and A4 are not part of this view, they still appear on the bill of materials.
If the detail style uses the Detail box or Detail box with Xrefs option, the bill of material will not have this text attached to it.
A bill of materials created using the Insert a details list command, will only display the elements contained within the detail box - the positions marks A2 and A4 are no longer displayed, as they are in the back side of the model (axes 2 or 3).
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The quantities shown in the list for single parts are total quantities. In case of a partial overview, the quantity displayed in the list for each single part will be the total quantity existing in the model for that part, even if not all these identical objects are present in the view.
...their combined total being part of the bill of materials.
When the drawing contains both Mainpart details and Single part details, the bill of material created for the entire drawing will contain only the elements from the Mainpart detail.
When the drawing contains both Mainpart details and Overviews, the bill of material created for the entire drawing will contain only the elements from the Mainpart detail. If you want to create a bill of materials for the overview, you can use the Insert a details list command.
When the drawing contains both Single part details and Overviews the bill of materials contains all the elements from these views.
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| Insert a Details List command | Insert a Drawing List command |
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| BOM- Structured List | BOM- Material List |
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In case of an unnumbered model, all quantities shown in the list are singular. In this situation, based on the chosen BOM template type, the results may be more or less meaningful.
| BOM - Beam List |
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Hi,
So to try and compliment the very detailed response and not to take away from that, we did face this issue a while back and the initial response I received was the same it is not possible to filter the BOM content to be relative to a list of components on that Arrangement type of drawing.
However we did try a couple of things, that worked in the instance that i was using it, in the from of a complex Box Girder main boom assembly, which formed part of a series of other assemblies of a bridge. (This may not work for your situation)
so what we had to do was use the Lot/Phase reference inside the AS properties, so we made the overall assembly into a series of lots, those assemblies in that lot/phase where separated to allow the separated fabrication within the workshop, as they came together on site to form the overall structure. So they still had an assembly number and Main part and single part relationship as understood by Advance steel, but they where group by the Lot/phase reference.
With the lot/phase reference in place and the assembly numbering, we could do the drawings to show the overall assembly of the bridge and then create a BOM on Drawing, with a special BOM template.
In the BOM Template there where a couple of key things to do, so to limit the elements displayed in the BOM, we set the filtering to the Assembly Numbering, also setting the model role content to be specific to the model role used for the main part of the assembly, so that way it only shows the main parts numbers in the BOM, as filter 1, then with filter 2, being the model role check box, which was set to specific series of model roles, we could limit the content in the output BOM on GA drawing to assembly references that referred to the overall bridge.
However to filter it again to only show the assembly parts that related to that overall assembly, we used the lot reference, as a dummy top level assemble reference, placing this in the BOM as field and then using the option to 'Group by the %phase token we could control/filter it further.
So the trick is, it does list everything from the model , but you can filter it, i think by using the lot phase to limit the number of objects listed in the BOM for that view.
it is a while since we did this, but it may help in your situation.
John Bennett
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