Drawing frame doesn't work in custom prototype

[Anonymous]

Hello,

I have a problem with drawing frame block... The issue is it doesn't work or rather work opposite way that is suppose.

I deleted all past blocks attributes with _purge command and then made an existing frame with same block name. However, AS locates all elements beside this frame...??

I attached my prototype. Could you test it and tell me why is it broken?

[AleckGiles]

Hi,

Try the ATTSYNC command on your block. (ATTSYNC, select, pick block and enter, yes). AutoCAD does not update attribute definitions inside existing blocks without using this command.

[Anonymous]

"This block has no attributes" that is what the CAD says.

I made once again new prototype using following:

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/advance-steel/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2018/ENU...

The same result, help me please... :<

[legar]

Hi Michal,

To work your prototype correctly... You should set-up left-lower frame coordinate to be (X,Y)=0;0.

In Your prototype it is actually X = -883.4321     Y = -57.5587     Z = 0.0000, and first (and last) detail is drawn near HYPERSTEELPAGEHEADER title block.

Please try "_AstM5DetSetArranger" command where You can set-up where and how details are drawn.

You can set-up page format, on what position (coordinates) is first detail drawn, details direction and so on...

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/advance-steel/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2018/ENU...

Jerzy

[legar]

Visually it looks like that:

Jerzy

[legar · Accepted solution]

And below corrected prototype view:

[Anonymous]

Your hint was very helpful, thank you!

However I've got a few questions again.

Why _AstM5DetSetArranger tool coordinates are diffrent from CAD page setups?

Why _AstM5DetSetArrange tool ignores my choice about details placement order in prototype? Do I have to change it manually on each drawing?

[legar]

Hi Michal,

I had the same problem in preparing prototypes few months ago and my answer to your topic question was based on results of "trial and error" method.

I didn't find any video on Youtube desrcibing _AstM5DetSetArranger tool - all videos were based only on HYPERSTEELPAGEFRAME.

Even in Advance Steel manual there are no information about correlation between HYPERSTEELPAGEFRAME and _AstM5DetSetArranger tool.

If nobody of AS guru will explain it deepier, then it is necessary to test some different set-up's.(if I find a time then will test it on weekend).

There are some  additional questions to _AstM5DetSetArranger tool eg. in Page Size field it is possible to write any sign sequence not correlated to any ISO page sizes (A0, A1 and so on) - what will happen if I write A0+ or A00 etc.

Is it possible to define non standard page size, name it (somewhere - and where?) and use it in _AstM5DetSetArranger tool?

Another sample question is to Restricted Area - sometimes it works but sometimes details are generated in Restricted Area!?

Jerzy