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Markups & Stamps

Markups & Stamps

The behaviour of markups and stamps in ACC Docs - seems to have been recently changed by Autodesk and doesnt make sense now. 

For instance, markups and stamps are visible in the web browser view and are only embedded if the pdfs are exported and then outside of the ACC. Markups and stamps that are published are also not visible if the pdfs are transmitted in ACC.

The use of stamps as a way of electronically signing a pdf in a workflow doesnt work. ie. Stamps of documents do not carry through on transmitted documents.

Also, previously markups in superseded versions of the documents were preserved but can now be deleted by the author. This is concerning and fails our requirements to keep a record of markups on reviews as an earlier version of documents in the process of advancing from WIP to Shared.

This forces us to use Desktop Connector and gather comments on pdfs in non ACC platforms such as Bluebeam and save as a new version. This being the only failsafe way to capture reviews for ISO 9001 audit trail.

Suggest that the behaviour of markups and stamps is as follows:

Idea 1) Markups on superseded versions of files can not be deleted for the purposes of leaving an audit trail.

Idea 2) Markups show through onto the next version of file and can be deleted in a current version. Deletion in current version doesnt remove markups in previous versions as per Idea 1.

Idea 3) Stamps do not appear or arent embedded in the pdf files and are not showing up in documents being transmitted. Its not clear the current use of a stamp.

Current workaround is to export pdf and select stamps and bring back into ACC as new version. Ability to do this as part of a workflow would be ideal as a way of visually presenting approved pdfs with an embedded stamp. This is the main aspect missing in ACC.

 

3 Comments
lucija.resetar
Advocate

You are still able to see markups left on V1 if you delete it on V2 👍

abreckenridge
Contributor

Thanks for your reply - i do appreciate the feedback. Yes that is working as intended. ie. Delete markup in latest version and it stays in previous version. That was my mistake in writing.

 

The main concern is that the author can remove their markups from previous versions. Also, if they have edit permissions they can remove anyones markups from any of the files. So we have to restrict permission level on folders accordingly but then that affects the functionality of Reviews (updating attributes as the approver must be set as edit but then the consequence of that is they can then delete anyone's markups). Few interrelated aspects to think through.

 

So some nuances that need to be teased out with Autodesk through project use cases.

tahir.mavricR8XEG
Contributor

I totally agree; the stamp is not just a markup, but a legal statement. The stamp also needs to be integrated with the review process. For example, if something is approved and becomes an official and legal document or plan, the stamp must in this case be embedded in the document, and not just added as a label or markup.

 

No matter if the document is opened with the ACC Viewer, via Desktop Connector, or downloaded (not only exported), the stamp must always be visible. Please ensure this is integrated.

 
 
 

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