Filter models by model properties

[membrec]

1. Problem statement & desired action/outcome: To be able to do takeoff on 3D object based on the detailed parameters. Lets say the same door type have beeen used, but a item parameter define the fire rating of the door. The user would then like to make a take-off for easy fire rating level and add the doors that fit that rating. Please have a look at what the Docs viewer does with the parameter breakdown. This would be a good start to filter the object based on the users own filters. 
2. Current issue/challenges: As for now the only option is to mark a door and select the same type name. This would give all the doors, and not only them with a certain fire rating. 
3. Current workaround: Do the take-off in Revit or Assemble

[membrec]

Is there a way to edit an Idea I submitted?

[whp.m.owens]

Two threads in the takeoff forum...looks like I'm on the cutting edge.

First, I couldn't agree more with membrec, I need the ability to do rule-based takeoffs in order to streamline my process. The platform is nice, but it's missing some core functionality, and considering the experience I have with a good variety of softwares for doing takeoff, this is a MUST. Obviously I also need a way to override automatic rules...but Iwould rather spend the time doing that, than manually assigning objects.

Second, it would be nice if I could use 2D-Takeoff values in Modell-based takeoffs. Sometimes, the Modellinformation isn't there, and it would be sufficient for me if I could use a line in a formula. Obviously, this would require a lot of work in developing the software...maybe it's not a great idea or there is already a way to do this I'm unaware of.

Finally, I have another IDEA for 2D-Takeoffs, and maybe this would be covered easily enough with formulas, but I want something which is maybe a bit more flexible and transparent...literally transparent.

It would be AMAZING, in my estimation, if I could essentially work with an overlay for repeating floors and items.

As an example; if I have a 15-storey building which uses the same floor template for 10 of those floors, and a slightly modified one for the others. Ideally I could create "2D Levels" for the project, and assign overlays to each level (floorplan) and assign which elements from the template are there, and which ones need to be modified for the specific floor.

If I could have only one wish, it's easy. Rule-based filters for assigning elements to takeoffs. Please!!!!

[membrec]

Hi @whp.m.owens,

I don't know if this solves all of your needs, but I hope it at least gets you part of the way. Since that original post, we have introduced Basic and Advanced filtering into the Model Browser in Takeoff. So while the assignment of quantities isn't automatic, the selection process is much more robust. Please see a very basic example below. And you can make rules based on any model object properties.

And yes, we know it would be nice to save and recall these filter sittings 🙂

I hope this helps!

[whp.m.owens]

Thanks for the response.

I found the advanced filtering but was a little bit disappointed with how it works, especially not being able to save the filters.

At the moment, Solibri seems to offer themost robust solutions for doing automated classifications. I can basically set modelsup accordin to our standards, export them, and push them through a structured data-pipeline. The only problem is, that we are more oriented towards our authoring environment (revit) and i am the only one in the office who can use solibri. It's also expensive, and because it's suppliedby another company and vendor, we have no chance to coiuple or absorb costs into autodesk products / the autodesk ecosystem.

Getting started with navisworks takeoff has been a disaster, and Iam looking for cloud-base solution which is accessible and intuitive to use.

Not sure if this will bethe solution we are looking for, especially since there is so much "clicking" involved. Thereare a lot of features, and the 2D takeoff looks pretty good, but the 3D-module is lacking some core functionality. Especially at the price.

It also appears that the classification key (Baugruppenkennzeichen in German) ist automatically detected by the primary quantity, but not set as a default when adding another one. It's a small thing, but it's an extra click I have to make.

It would also be nice to have "saved formulas." I've gone through and written a lot of formulas over and over and over and over again. Very annoying! Would be AMAZING to have user-created calculated values I could point to.

I could of course do this in Revit, but there are two things which Revit doesn't do.

1. The most critical, there is no real-time previewing of the schedules in revit. This makes it very difficult to work-through largermodels and ensure allobjects are being classified.

2. It doesn't allow you to export calculated values, which is extremely frustrating. Instead of setting up a formula once in revit and exporting it with the model to getmy values automatically, I have to do it again in Takeoff.

At the moment, there aren't any "additional" datapoints in the Takeoff data-model. Solibri offers aligned bounding boxes in order to get actual lengths and heights. The biggest concern for me here is that the walls can be attached, and there is no way tograb the actual wall heights. I do not understand why Revit hasn't built-in a parameter for theheight of the wall, like areas and volumes, to report this info. In Solibri, I can at least use rule-basedchecks and implement those into the takeoff workflow. Here, I can check, but I can't document the issue. Which leads me to another question regarding RFIs. Is there a way to create a list (like Issues) as I work through the model? Would also be amazing.

[membrec]

The ability to filter models by model properties has been implemented. This includes basic and advanced filtering.

I know there are followup requests to save filters and do other things in this area. Please feel free to create new Ideas to capture those requests separately.