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Message 1 of 10 (105 Views)

Shadow Licenses Servers are not working in redundatn ADLM instalation

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08-04-2000 07:55 AM
I hava 3 Redundant ADLM Licenses Servers installed on NT 4.0
but my clients only connect to the Master Server.
Shadows servers never are used by clients, even when I point the
ACADSERVER environment variable from each client to a shaw server

This seems like my redundant servers are not working as redundant servers
because only one (the master) license server is working like a standalone.

How Can I distribute licenses from shadow servers to my ACAD2000 clients?
*Schroeder, Bud
Message 2 of 10 (105 Views)

Re: Shadow Licenses Servers are not working in redundatn ADLM instalation

08-05-2000 11:11 AM in reply to: jsosai
Hello,

I think there is some confusion on what and how redundant servers do. For
example. You have 3 servers in your pool. Master, Shadow, Shadow. All
three servers are setup to license the same amount of AutoCAD's and or
vertical products. So the master is the one that is actually dishing out the
licenses here. Now if your Master server goes down, the next shadow server in
the list will move to Master and be handing out the license. The idea is that
you always have a server running the license manager. It's not distributed
services in the sense that you can put different groups on different servers.
Your best bet for that is to have more than one server and point your groups
to them.

Hope this helps clear this up.

Bud

jsosai wrote:

> I hava 3 Redundant ADLM Licenses Servers installed on NT 4.0
> but my clients only connect to the Master Server.
> Shadows servers never are used by clients, even when I point the
> ACADSERVER environment variable from each client to a shaw server
>
> This seems like my redundant servers are not working as redundant servers
> because only one (the master) license server is working like a standalone.
>
> How Can I distribute licenses from shadow servers to my ACAD2000 clients?
>
>
*iglesias, jesus sosa
Message 3 of 10 (105 Views)

Re:

08-07-2000 08:55 AM in reply to: jsosai
Bud:

Ok , Is good to know how the redundant license server works.
but then now I change my question to the next:

How I can make my Shadow Servers become a master server?

thats is because always when I shutdown my Master Server
my Acad200 Clients Can´t get Licenses from the Shadow Servers...

Bud Schroeder wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I think there is some confusion on what and how redundant servers do. For
> example. You have 3 servers in your pool. Master, Shadow, Shadow. All
> three servers are setup to license the same amount of AutoCAD's and or
> vertical products. So the master is the one that is actually dishing out the
> licenses here. Now if your Master server goes down, the next shadow server in
> the list will move to Master and be handing out the license. The idea is that
> you always have a server running the license manager. It's not distributed
> services in the sense that you can put different groups on different servers.
> Your best bet for that is to have more than one server and point your groups
> to them.
>
> Hope this helps clear this up.
>
> Bud
>
> jsosai wrote:
>
> > I hava 3 Redundant ADLM Licenses Servers installed on NT 4.0
> > but my clients only connect to the Master Server.
> > Shadows servers never are used by clients, even when I point the
> > ACADSERVER environment variable from each client to a shaw server
> >
> > This seems like my redundant servers are not working as redundant servers
> > because only one (the master) license server is working like a standalone.
> >
> > How Can I distribute licenses from shadow servers to my ACAD2000 clients?
> >
> >
*milana, jerry
Message 4 of 10 (105 Views)

Re:

08-07-2000 11:16 AM in reply to: jsosai
Hi,

Are all of your redundant servers on the same subnet?
Are your workstations in subnets remote from your AdLM servers?
How are you setting the ACADSERVER variable? Does the "@" symbol appear in
the variable value? Note: If using redundant servers, the @ symbol should
NEVER be used with ACADSERVER.
What operating system are you using for your redundant servers?

Jerry Milana,
Autodesk Product Support

"jesus sosa iglesias" wrote in message
news:398EDC02.FF77CED3@imp.mx...
> Bud:
>
> Ok , Is good to know how the redundant license server works.
> but then now I change my question to the next:
>
> How I can make my Shadow Servers become a master server?
>
> thats is because always when I shutdown my Master Server
> my Acad200 Clients Can´t get Licenses from the Shadow Servers...
>
> Bud Schroeder wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I think there is some confusion on what and how redundant servers do.
For
> > example. You have 3 servers in your pool. Master, Shadow, Shadow.
All
> > three servers are setup to license the same amount of AutoCAD's and or
> > vertical products. So the master is the one that is actually dishing
out the
> > licenses here. Now if your Master server goes down, the next shadow
server in
> > the list will move to Master and be handing out the license. The idea
is that
> > you always have a server running the license manager. It's not
distributed
> > services in the sense that you can put different groups on different
servers.
> > Your best bet for that is to have more than one server and point your
groups
> > to them.
> >
> > Hope this helps clear this up.
> >
> > Bud
> >
> > jsosai wrote:
> >
> > > I hava 3 Redundant ADLM Licenses Servers installed on NT 4.0
> > > but my clients only connect to the Master Server.
> > > Shadows servers never are used by clients, even when I point the
> > > ACADSERVER environment variable from each client to a shaw server
> > >
> > > This seems like my redundant servers are not working as redundant
servers
> > > because only one (the master) license server is working like a
standalone.
> > >
> > > How Can I distribute licenses from shadow servers to my ACAD2000
clients?
> > >
> > >
>
*iglesias, jesus sosa
Message 5 of 10 (105 Views)

Re:

08-07-2000 02:25 PM in reply to: jsosai
Jerry

I installed all of my redundant Licenses Servers on NT version 4.0 Intel
All of them are on the same network (192.168.143.0).
Some of my clients are on the same network but others are in others local
networks.
my Autocad clients are using Win95/98/NT 4.0

andMy ACADSERVER Environment variable for each of my clients
is:

set ACADSERVER=192.168.143.225;192.168.143.242;192.168.143.245

jerry milana wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Are all of your redundant servers on the same subnet?
> Are your workstations in subnets remote from your AdLM servers?
> How are you setting the ACADSERVER variable? Does the "@" symbol appear in
> the variable value? Note: If using redundant servers, the @ symbol should
> NEVER be used with ACADSERVER.
> What operating system are you using for your redundant servers?
>
> Jerry Milana,
> Autodesk Product Support
>
> "jesus sosa iglesias" wrote in message
> news:398EDC02.FF77CED3@imp.mx...
> > Bud:
> >
> > Ok , Is good to know how the redundant license server works.
> > but then now I change my question to the next:
> >
> > How I can make my Shadow Servers become a master server?
> >
> > thats is because always when I shutdown my Master Server
> > my Acad200 Clients Can´t get Licenses from the Shadow Servers...
> >
> > Bud Schroeder wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I think there is some confusion on what and how redundant servers do.
> For
> > > example. You have 3 servers in your pool. Master, Shadow, Shadow.
> All
> > > three servers are setup to license the same amount of AutoCAD's and or
> > > vertical products. So the master is the one that is actually dishing
> out the
> > > licenses here. Now if your Master server goes down, the next shadow
> server in
> > > the list will move to Master and be handing out the license. The idea
> is that
> > > you always have a server running the license manager. It's not
> distributed
> > > services in the sense that you can put different groups on different
> servers.
> > > Your best bet for that is to have more than one server and point your
> groups
> > > to them.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps clear this up.
> > >
> > > Bud
> > >
> > > jsosai wrote:
> > >
> > > > I hava 3 Redundant ADLM Licenses Servers installed on NT 4.0
> > > > but my clients only connect to the Master Server.
> > > > Shadows servers never are used by clients, even when I point the
> > > > ACADSERVER environment variable from each client to a shaw server
> > > >
> > > > This seems like my redundant servers are not working as redundant
> servers
> > > > because only one (the master) license server is working like a
> standalone.
> > > >
> > > > How Can I distribute licenses from shadow servers to my ACAD2000
> clients?
> > > >
> > > >
> >
*iglesias, jesus sosa
Message 6 of 10 (105 Views)

Re:

08-07-2000 03:25 PM in reply to: jsosai
My Fault

I forgot to register AUTH CODE in one of my redundant servers
Everything works fine now!

Thanks

jesus sosa iglesias wrote:

> Bud:
>
> Ok , Is good to know how the redundant license server works.
> but then now I change my question to the next:
>
> How I can make my Shadow Servers become a master server?
>
> thats is because always when I shutdown my Master Server
> my Acad200 Clients Can´t get Licenses from the Shadow Servers...
>
> Bud Schroeder wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I think there is some confusion on what and how redundant servers do. For
> > example. You have 3 servers in your pool. Master, Shadow, Shadow. All
> > three servers are setup to license the same amount of AutoCAD's and or
> > vertical products. So the master is the one that is actually dishing out the
> > licenses here. Now if your Master server goes down, the next shadow server in
> > the list will move to Master and be handing out the license. The idea is that
> > you always have a server running the license manager. It's not distributed
> > services in the sense that you can put different groups on different servers.
> > Your best bet for that is to have more than one server and point your groups
> > to them.
> >
> > Hope this helps clear this up.
> >
> > Bud
> >
> > jsosai wrote:
> >
> > > I hava 3 Redundant ADLM Licenses Servers installed on NT 4.0
> > > but my clients only connect to the Master Server.
> > > Shadows servers never are used by clients, even when I point the
> > > ACADSERVER environment variable from each client to a shaw server
> > >
> > > This seems like my redundant servers are not working as redundant servers
> > > because only one (the master) license server is working like a standalone.
> > >
> > > How Can I distribute licenses from shadow servers to my ACAD2000 clients?
> > >
> > >
*milana, jerry
Message 7 of 10 (105 Views)

Re:

08-07-2000 03:25 PM in reply to: jsosai
Jesus,

ACADSERVER should not be set to IP addresses, it should be set to hostnames.
All systems must be able to ping the server by hostname and the server must
be able to ping the workstations by hostnames. Even though you got things
running, you should fix this as you may have problems down the road.

jerry

"jesus sosa iglesias" wrote in message
news:398F3741.56CE326D@imp.mx...
> My Fault
>
> I forgot to register AUTH CODE in one of my redundant servers
> Everything works fine now!
>
> Thanks
>
> jesus sosa iglesias wrote:
>
> > Bud:
> >
> > Ok , Is good to know how the redundant license server works.
> > but then now I change my question to the next:
> >
> > How I can make my Shadow Servers become a master server?
> >
> > thats is because always when I shutdown my Master Server
> > my Acad200 Clients Can´t get Licenses from the Shadow Servers...
> >
> > Bud Schroeder wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I think there is some confusion on what and how redundant servers do.
For
> > > example. You have 3 servers in your pool. Master, Shadow, Shadow.
All
> > > three servers are setup to license the same amount of AutoCAD's and or
> > > vertical products. So the master is the one that is actually dishing
out the
> > > licenses here. Now if your Master server goes down, the next shadow
server in
> > > the list will move to Master and be handing out the license. The idea
is that
> > > you always have a server running the license manager. It's not
distributed
> > > services in the sense that you can put different groups on different
servers.
> > > Your best bet for that is to have more than one server and point your
groups
> > > to them.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps clear this up.
> > >
> > > Bud
> > >
> > > jsosai wrote:
> > >
> > > > I hava 3 Redundant ADLM Licenses Servers installed on NT 4.0
> > > > but my clients only connect to the Master Server.
> > > > Shadows servers never are used by clients, even when I point the
> > > > ACADSERVER environment variable from each client to a shaw server
> > > >
> > > > This seems like my redundant servers are not working as redundant
servers
> > > > because only one (the master) license server is working like a
standalone.
> > > >
> > > > How Can I distribute licenses from shadow servers to my ACAD2000
clients?
> > > >
> > > >
>
*Schroeder, Bud
Message 8 of 10 (105 Views)

Re:

08-07-2000 09:41 PM in reply to: jsosai
I see you have been going back and forth with Jerry. I did not see these messages
from the office today;-). You should also change to your host name, and not use the
IP addresses as Jerry had suggested. It will save you some headaches down the road.

Thanks for letting us know you are up and running.

Bud

jesus sosa iglesias wrote:

> My Fault
>
> I forgot to register AUTH CODE in one of my redundant servers
> Everything works fine now!
>
> Thanks
>
> jesus sosa iglesias wrote:
>
> > Bud:
> >
> > Ok , Is good to know how the redundant license server works.
> > but then now I change my question to the next:
> >
> > How I can make my Shadow Servers become a master server?
> >
> > thats is because always when I shutdown my Master Server
> > my Acad200 Clients Can´t get Licenses from the Shadow Servers...
> >
> > Bud Schroeder wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I think there is some confusion on what and how redundant servers do. For
> > > example. You have 3 servers in your pool. Master, Shadow, Shadow. All
> > > three servers are setup to license the same amount of AutoCAD's and or
> > > vertical products. So the master is the one that is actually dishing out the
> > > licenses here. Now if your Master server goes down, the next shadow server in
> > > the list will move to Master and be handing out the license. The idea is that
> > > you always have a server running the license manager. It's not distributed
> > > services in the sense that you can put different groups on different servers.
> > > Your best bet for that is to have more than one server and point your groups
> > > to them.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps clear this up.
> > >
> > > Bud
> > >
> > > jsosai wrote:
> > >
> > > > I hava 3 Redundant ADLM Licenses Servers installed on NT 4.0
> > > > but my clients only connect to the Master Server.
> > > > Shadows servers never are used by clients, even when I point the
> > > > ACADSERVER environment variable from each client to a shaw server
> > > >
> > > > This seems like my redundant servers are not working as redundant servers
> > > > because only one (the master) license server is working like a standalone.
> > > >
> > > > How Can I distribute licenses from shadow servers to my ACAD2000 clients?
> > > >
> > > >
*Frampton, John
Message 9 of 10 (105 Views)

Re:

08-08-2000 06:21 AM in reply to: jsosai
Jerry,

I understand that the workstations need to be able to ping the server by
hostname, but I am unsure why the server would need to be able to ping the
workstations by hostname. My current setup is; the Server has a static IP
address, is in the DNS server, and on segment 120: some of my clients have
static IP's but are not in the DNS server, on segments 122 & 123(segment
doesn't have a DHCP server: other clients are running DHCp and on segments
120 &121. The Acadserver variable is currently set to SERVERNAME
(ACADSERVER=SERVERname). We don't use local host files. Everything is and
has been up and running fine. Could you please explain this better, so I
can talk to my networking people about a resolution? And advise how things
should work in an enviroment using DHCP? What are some of the problems I
may see that you mention? I currently don't have a shadowserver but am
looking into installing one on the same segment (120) as the current ADLM.

As always Thanks,
John A. Frampton.

"jerry milana" wrote in message
news:ef320af.5@WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> Jesus,
>
> ACADSERVER should not be set to IP addresses, it should be set to
hostnames.
> All systems must be able to ping the server by hostname and the server
must
> be able to ping the workstations by hostnames. Even though you got things
> running, you should fix this as you may have problems down the road.
>
> jerry
>
> "jesus sosa iglesias" wrote in message
> news:398F3741.56CE326D@imp.mx...
> > My Fault
> >
> > I forgot to register AUTH CODE in one of my redundant servers
> > Everything works fine now!
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > jesus sosa iglesias wrote:
> >
> > > Bud:
> > >
> > > Ok , Is good to know how the redundant license server works.
> > > but then now I change my question to the next:
> > >
> > > How I can make my Shadow Servers become a master server?
> > >
> > > thats is because always when I shutdown my Master Server
> > > my Acad200 Clients Can´t get Licenses from the Shadow Servers...
> > >
> > > Bud Schroeder wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I think there is some confusion on what and how redundant servers
do.
> For
> > > > example. You have 3 servers in your pool. Master, Shadow, Shadow.
> All
> > > > three servers are setup to license the same amount of AutoCAD's and
or
> > > > vertical products. So the master is the one that is actually
dishing
> out the
> > > > licenses here. Now if your Master server goes down, the next shadow
> server in
> > > > the list will move to Master and be handing out the license. The
idea
> is that
> > > > you always have a server running the license manager. It's not
> distributed
> > > > services in the sense that you can put different groups on different
> servers.
> > > > Your best bet for that is to have more than one server and point
your
> groups
> > > > to them.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps clear this up.
> > > >
> > > > Bud
> > > >
> > > > jsosai wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I hava 3 Redundant ADLM Licenses Servers installed on NT 4.0
> > > > > but my clients only connect to the Master Server.
> > > > > Shadows servers never are used by clients, even when I point the
> > > > > ACADSERVER environment variable from each client to a shaw server
> > > > >
> > > > > This seems like my redundant servers are not working as redundant
> servers
> > > > > because only one (the master) license server is working like a
> standalone.
> > > > >
> > > > > How Can I distribute licenses from shadow servers to my ACAD2000
> clients?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
>
*milana, jerry
Message 10 of 10 (105 Views)

Re:

08-08-2000 02:22 PM in reply to: jsosai
John,

AdLM authenticates against hostnames, if you do not have name resolution
enabled in both directions, you may get failures of one or more workstations
in obtaining licenses.

jerry

"John Frampton" wrote in message
news:ef320af.7@WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> Jerry,
>
> I understand that the workstations need to be able to ping the server
by
> hostname, but I am unsure why the server would need to be able to ping the
> workstations by hostname. My current setup is; the Server has a static IP
> address, is in the DNS server, and on segment 120: some of my clients have
> static IP's but are not in the DNS server, on segments 122 & 123(segment
> doesn't have a DHCP server: other clients are running DHCp and on segments
> 120 &121. The Acadserver variable is currently set to SERVERNAME
> (ACADSERVER=SERVERname). We don't use local host files. Everything is
and
> has been up and running fine. Could you please explain this better, so I
> can talk to my networking people about a resolution? And advise how
things
> should work in an enviroment using DHCP? What are some of the problems I
> may see that you mention? I currently don't have a shadowserver but am
> looking into installing one on the same segment (120) as the current ADLM.
>
> As always Thanks,
> John A. Frampton.
>
> "jerry milana" wrote in message
> news:ef320af.5@WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > Jesus,
> >
> > ACADSERVER should not be set to IP addresses, it should be set to
> hostnames.
> > All systems must be able to ping the server by hostname and the server
> must
> > be able to ping the workstations by hostnames. Even though you got
things
> > running, you should fix this as you may have problems down the road.
> >
> > jerry
> >
> > "jesus sosa iglesias" wrote in message
> > news:398F3741.56CE326D@imp.mx...
> > > My Fault
> > >
> > > I forgot to register AUTH CODE in one of my redundant servers
> > > Everything works fine now!
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > jesus sosa iglesias wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bud:
> > > >
> > > > Ok , Is good to know how the redundant license server works.
> > > > but then now I change my question to the next:
> > > >
> > > > How I can make my Shadow Servers become a master server?
> > > >
> > > > thats is because always when I shutdown my Master Server
> > > > my Acad200 Clients Can´t get Licenses from the Shadow Servers...
> > > >
> > > > Bud Schroeder wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I think there is some confusion on what and how redundant servers
> do.
> > For
> > > > > example. You have 3 servers in your pool. Master, Shadow,
Shadow.
> > All
> > > > > three servers are setup to license the same amount of AutoCAD's
and
> or
> > > > > vertical products. So the master is the one that is actually
> dishing
> > out the
> > > > > licenses here. Now if your Master server goes down, the next
shadow
> > server in
> > > > > the list will move to Master and be handing out the license. The
> idea
> > is that
> > > > > you always have a server running the license manager. It's not
> > distributed
> > > > > services in the sense that you can put different groups on
different
> > servers.
> > > > > Your best bet for that is to have more than one server and point
> your
> > groups
> > > > > to them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps clear this up.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bud
> > > > >
> > > > > jsosai wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I hava 3 Redundant ADLM Licenses Servers installed on NT 4.0
> > > > > > but my clients only connect to the Master Server.
> > > > > > Shadows servers never are used by clients, even when I point the
> > > > > > ACADSERVER environment variable from each client to a shaw
server
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This seems like my redundant servers are not working as
redundant
> > servers
> > > > > > because only one (the master) license server is working like a
> > standalone.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How Can I distribute licenses from shadow servers to my ACAD2000
> > clients?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> >
>

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