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Migrating to AdLM with existing standalones

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09-06-2000 11:01 AM
I would like to migrate our NT networked ACAD14.01 to use AdLM and have the following questions:
- Is there a more recent version of AdLM than the one that comes on the 14.01 CD?
- Will AdLM automatically see existing standalone installations and/or prevent them from running?
- How do I convert standalone installations to use AdLM?
- We have custom menus and config files; will I run into problems with these vis a vis the switch to AdLM?
- Once we have migrated, we want to add more licences, how is that done?

Thanks, -Frank
*martin, jason
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Re: Migrating to AdLM with existing standalones

09-06-2000 11:54 AM in reply to: frevi
- Is there a more recent version of AdLM than the one that comes on the
14.01 CD?
Yes, the one on the Autocad 2000i CD
- Will AdLM automatically see existing standalone installations and/or
prevent them from running?
No. It in no way modifies or changes any existing standalone licenses.
- How do I convert standalone installations to use AdLM?
Call your dealer. Ours generally charges us to convert a license from stand
alone to networked or vice versa
- We have custom menus and config files; will I run into problems with these
vis a vis the switch to AdLM?
Yes. Definately. To use the adlm you must create a network deployment.
You cannot use the standalone installations to see the adlm server. You
will have to remove all of your local installs and re-install using the
deployment.

Basic steps from a previous post outlined below


There is no "supported" way to convert a stand alone install into an ADLM
aware install. There are some rumors that some people have made it work
without re-installing but I've not seen any detail about how, and Autodesk
won't support it anyway.

I've not seen any manual specifically for ADLM but it's really pretty
simple. Your installation guide should have a chapter on Install in and
Using Autocad on a network that will walk you thru the basic steps.

Basic things that you need to do are:
1. Install the ADLM on a machine and get the auth code from Autodesk
2. Build a Client Deployment (Follow the bouncing ball mostly, you'll
need some space on a server that everyone can get to for the "image")
3. Copy all of your customized files from the local machine to another
folder
4. Uninstall the local copies of Autocad
5. Install the client deployment to the local workstations
6. Copy your customized files back over the newly installed files (back
them up first)



for additional documentation on AdLM you may want to visit
http://www3.autodesk.com/adsk/support/troubleshoot/0,,123882--125452-20022_2
1843,00.html
and
http://www3.autodesk.com/adsk/support/troubleshoot/0,,123882--125452-20021_2
1843,00.html

The first URL is the AutoCAD 2000 Network Tech doc index, the second is the
Release 14 Network index. License management issues for 2000 and Release 14
are essentially the same.



Watch out for the URL's above as they will be wrapped.
--



- Once we have migrated, we want to add more licences, how is that done?
Buy the license from your dealer and then call the 1800 number (it's in the
installation guide) and get a new license code for the additional licenses
(be sure and tell them that you've gone from 8 to 10 licenses and not just
that you've bought 2 licenses because if you just tell them 2 they may just
give you a server code for 2 licesnes).

hth

jason martin
frankfurt-short-bruza
frevi wrote in message news:ef3dca3.-1@WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
I would like to migrate our NT networked ACAD14.01 to use AdLM and have the
following questions:
- Is there a more recent version of AdLM than the one that comes on the
14.01 CD?
- Will AdLM automatically see existing standalone installations and/or
prevent them from running?
- How do I convert standalone installations to use AdLM?
- We have custom menus and config files; will I run into problems with these
vis a vis the switch to AdLM?
- Once we have migrated, we want to add more licences, how is that done?
Thanks, -Frank
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Posts: 20
Registered: ‎07-02-2001
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09-07-2000 09:09 AM in reply to: frevi
- We have custom menus and config files; will I run into problems with these vis a vis the switch to AdLM?
Yes. Definately. To use the adlm you must create a network deployment. You cannot use the standalone installations to see the adlm server. You will have to remove all of your local installs and re-install using the deployment.

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I have no idea about the US version of AutoCAD, but this is not true at all for the version I use (UK). AdLM can run quite happily without any kind of network deployment - in my office we run AdLM on an old Win95 PC, and AutoCAD itself is installed locally on individual workstations. If you unplug the hardware lock from our workstations, AutoCAD automatically searches the network for the AdLM, finds it, and uses it (although there was a bug in the AutoCAD R14 installation not installing the right .dll which we had to get over).
*martin, jason
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09-07-2000 09:52 AM in reply to: frevi
Somebody mentioned to me once that the international version would work the
way that you describe, but I always forget about it. The original poster
also seems to be US (according to domain information).

I've heard about some people with the US version who've been able to "hack"
some dll's and get away with leaving the local install inplace and having it
find the adlm, but It's unsupported by Autodesk. Not necessarily bad but If
you start having problems getting licenses don't ask Autodesk.
bduguid wrote in message
news:ef3dca3.1@WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
- We have custom menus and config files; will I run into problems with these
vis a vis the switch to AdLM?
Yes. Definately. To use the adlm you must create a network deployment. You
cannot use the standalone installations to see the adlm server. You will
have to remove all of your local installs and re-install using the
deployment.
---
I have no idea about the US version of AutoCAD, but this is not true at all
for the version I use (UK). AdLM can run quite happily without any kind of
network deployment - in my office we run AdLM on an old Win95 PC, and
AutoCAD itself is installed locally on individual workstations. If you
unplug the hardware lock from our workstations, AutoCAD automatically
searches the network for the AdLM, finds it, and uses it (although there was
a bug in the AutoCAD R14 installation not installing the right .dll which we
had to get over).
*Support\, Autodesk
Message 5 of 6 (115 Views)

Re:

09-08-2000 01:50 AM in reply to: frevi
The English International version of R14 will automatically find the ADLM if
the hardware lock is removed, however R14.01 will not as the adesksys.dll
required is only installed when you carry out a client/network deployment

--
Simon Gillis
Product Support Analyst
AMG Product Support UK
Worldwide Support & Services, Autodesk

"bduguid" wrote in message
news:ef3dca3.1@WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
- We have custom menus and config files; will I run into problems with these
vis a vis the switch to AdLM?
Yes. Definately. To use the adlm you must create a network deployment. You
cannot use the standalone installations to see the adlm server. You will
have to remove all of your local installs and re-install using the
deployment.
---
I have no idea about the US version of AutoCAD, but this is not true at all
for the version I use (UK). AdLM can run quite happily without any kind of
network deployment - in my office we run AdLM on an old Win95 PC, and
AutoCAD itself is installed locally on individual workstations. If you
unplug the hardware lock from our workstations, AutoCAD automatically
searches the network for the AdLM, finds it, and uses it (although there was
a bug in the AutoCAD R14 installation not installing the right .dll which we
had to get over).
*Hänninen, Juha
Message 6 of 6 (115 Views)

Re: Migrating to AdLM with existing standalones

09-13-2000 10:54 PM in reply to: frevi
The ADLM version of R14.01 will automatically find
the hardware lock if the network lock is not present. So changing between
network and standalone version is simply connecting the hardware lock or
removing it. This makes it relatively easy for our workers to travel and this is
what we have done for years. With a laptop the dongle is a pain
though.

 

Not so with 2000i, now you have install and
uninstall AutoCAD AND transfer the licence from somwhere. This makes it
extremely laborous to manage the licences for workers that are in and out the
office infrequently. The hardware lock was bad and 2000i is worse! For a laptop
user the software licence is good.

 

Juha Hänninen

Jaakko Pöyry Oy

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