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*Susan
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Looking for pre-installation advice...

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04-25-2001 07:21 AM
We currently have two of our 15 seats of AutoCAD2000 running as network
versions under ADLM. We just upgraded everything to 2000i, so I'm looking
for some advice before I just jump in and upgrade the server version.

Problems that I forsee and would like feedback on are as follows:

- Do I need to unintall r2000 to install r2000i on the server?
- I'm only assuming (but you know what happens when you assume) that it will
not be a problem that some end-users will be running NT4.0 and some Win2K
- Last, for those users running NT4.0 we like to install programs on the D:
drive (since on those machines we created only a small C: partition,
programs don't often fit) and the users running Win2K have just a C:
partition only. Will that confuse ADLM that I'm trying to install to two
separate places?

Anyone who has just gone through a similar upgrade and has any pitfalls to
share, I'd love to hear them.

Thanks -

Susan
*James Wedding, E.I.T.
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Re: Looking for pre-installation advice...

04-25-2001 11:11 PM in reply to: *Susan
Hope this helps...
1. When you say uninstall from the server, are you talking about the
application or client deployments? If you have the apllication installed on
the server and run it there from all the stations, I think you'll have to
uninstall. If you're talking about the client deployment image, then you
don't have to remove it. I think I still have the R14 deployment image
somewhere....no licenses but I could install it I guess.
2. I don't think that NT and Win2K will be an issue, but I've only tested
that twice so far. Appears to be working without problems.
3. To install on D, you'll have to create a separate deployment image with
everything pathed out to a D directory. Be VERY careful here. I had this set
up this way, and in my client deployment told temp files to go to D:\temp\.
If that directory doesn't exist, the install would bail out without a clear
error message. Frustrating as all get out. Just be sure you have the
neccessary directories made if they're not being created by the software.
The two deployments means you have two sets of everything on your server,
but really not a big deal. As far as the ADLM goes, it won't care where you
install.

HTH--
James Wedding, E.I.T.
IT Manager
Jones & Boyd, Inc.
Dallas, Texas
jwedding@NOSPAMjones-boyd.com
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*martin, jason
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04-25-2001 11:46 PM in reply to: *Susan
#1 You shouldn't have to uninstall even if you are running the application from the
server. I have a server that has adt1, adt2 and adt3 all installed on it (all of which
are in various states of disarray). To the server it doesn't matter, it's basically a
file server with shares. It doesn't run any part of the application, it just provides
access to the file that the clients request.

#2 There is an issue with Windows 2000 and it getting licenses from the adlm server.
There is a fix and it works fine. You'll need to get a new version of the adesksys.dll
file (see http://support01.autodesk.com/knowledgebase/html/157553.htm (watch for wrapping)
for the problem/solution (The links to the file are actually in the kb article but it
takes some work). Only install the new and improved adesksys.dll on your W2k machines.

#3 Another option is not to create silent installs for the clients and allow them to
select where they want the install to go. I've never actually done this as I'd rather not
have users mucking with where things end up, but it is possible. I didn't know that the
install looked for d:\temp if you directed it to the D drive. Good to know.

jason martin
frankfurt-short-bruza

James Wedding, E.I.T." wrote in message
news:C2728DEE8928C02EF86E9C88A27FC662@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hope this helps...
> 1. When you say uninstall from the server, are you talking about the
> application or client deployments? If you have the apllication installed on
> the server and run it there from all the stations, I think you'll have to
> uninstall. If you're talking about the client deployment image, then you
> don't have to remove it. I think I still have the R14 deployment image
> somewhere....no licenses but I could install it I guess.
> 2. I don't think that NT and Win2K will be an issue, but I've only tested
> that twice so far. Appears to be working without problems.
> 3. To install on D, you'll have to create a separate deployment image with
> everything pathed out to a D directory. Be VERY careful here. I had this set
> up this way, and in my client deployment told temp files to go to D:\temp\.
> If that directory doesn't exist, the install would bail out without a clear
> error message. Frustrating as all get out. Just be sure you have the
> neccessary directories made if they're not being created by the software.
> The two deployments means you have two sets of everything on your server,
> but really not a big deal. As far as the ADLM goes, it won't care where you
> install.
>
> HTH--
> James Wedding, E.I.T.
> IT Manager
> Jones & Boyd, Inc.
> Dallas, Texas
> jwedding@NOSPAMjones-boyd.com
> Remove NOSPAM from e-mail for reply.
>
*James Wedding, E.I.T.
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04-26-2001 12:12 AM in reply to: *Susan
Well dang, I should know better than to post before my coffee.
1. Who knew. Never have run the app on the server. Thought it would be like
the local installs of LDD2 and LDD2i....no workey.
2. Hmm....have to remember that. Like I said, I have 2 users here on W2K
without and problems...maybe I'm just lucky.
3. It doesn't really forec the temp files to d:\temp unless you tell it to.
That's one of the options somewhere in the client creation process. I had
that happening and it caused me no end of grief until I figured out what was
happening. I think I built the deploymeny about 5 times before I got
everything right.

Thanks for sharing the info...I'll try to file it all into my brain, but no
promises.

--
James Wedding, E.I.T.
IT Manager
Jones & Boyd, Inc.
Dallas, Texas
jwedding@NOSPAMjones-boyd.com
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*Susan
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Re: Looking for pre-installation advice...

04-26-2001 02:45 AM in reply to: *Susan
Thanks for all the tips. Knew the one about the adesksys.dll since that's
the same issue for Win2K machines with r2000.

It's been so long since I did the original server install that I forgot that
I could probably not do silent installs. That just might work for what I
need to do.

BTW - I'm talking about a client employment.

My newest problem is with some of our current people running the r2000 ADLM
client where they are getting that "Fatal Error: Security system (hardware
lock or network license) is not functioning or is improperly installed."
There are no hardware locks on this (duh!) and it still works on some
computers but not others (it's an NT machine that's messed up right now).

I reinstalled the local client just for grins, but of course that didn't
work. I don't want to have to reinstall it on the server since I will
(soon) be installing 2000i. I would just install the network version on
2000i now if Autodesk hadn't screwed up AGAIN and can't figure out which of
my license upgrades correspond to my r2000 network licenses, but that's just
a whole 'nother story.

Don't know if anyone is still following the thread...

Susan
*Susan
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04-26-2001 02:50 AM in reply to: *Susan
> BTW - I'm talking about a client employment.

DE-ployment, DE-ployment!

Sorry.
*Gilmer, Tom
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04-26-2001 03:18 AM in reply to: *Susan
em-POWERment em-POWERment, that's what we need from AutoDesk.

- Tom

"Susan" wrote in message
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> > BTW - I'm talking about a client employment.
>
> DE-ployment, DE-ployment!
>
> Sorry.
>

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