p4 vs p4xeon

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know if the xeon version processor helps on speed for adt. I am
looking for faster creations of elevations when using that command. I have a
large file w/ xrefs that takes 10 minutes or so to create elevations. I have
a p3 w/ 512 ram at present thank you

[Anonymous]

Processor alone is not enough: a specific tailored graphics card, SCSI ultra
high speed hard drive and disk mirroring/splitting, custom special
motherboard, Windows OS version (WinXPPro or Win2000 minimum) and so much
more go into speeding an application, and if you are running less than
ADT3.3 that does not help either. All the above assumes money is no object
of course.

You can get one heck of a speed demon in the US$2000-2500 range, but for
ultra speed, twice as much is what you spend, but necessarily for twice the
speed gain.

So, share with everyone how much you have to spend, and you can then get a
more realistic recommendation on what is available for that amount of money.

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"kstill331" wrote in message
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> Does anyone know if the xeon version processor helps on speed for adt. I
am
> looking for faster creations of elevations when using that command. I have
a
> large file w/ xrefs that takes 10 minutes or so to create elevations. I
have
> a p3 w/ 512 ram at present thank you
>
>

[Anonymous]

I was looking at velocity pro-magic w/ dual p4 xeon 2.8G 1024 rd ram for
$4600, from what I have read , dual processors don't help adt3.3 . I have
been learning viz, more as a hobby than anything else. I can't to seem to
find much of a market for renderings in the residential area. I have done
some commercial, a couple churches and factorys because site developement
likes to see a visualization of the proposed finished bldg., anyway to the
original point, I'll spend 4 or 5 thousand but is it overkill when I can get
a 3.06 p4 w/ 1024 rd ram at xi computers for around $2500 and the best amd
machine even cheaper thank you for any advice
"Dean Saadallah" wrote in message
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> Processor alone is not enough: a specific tailored graphics card, SCSI
ultra
> high speed hard drive and disk mirroring/splitting, custom special
> motherboard, Windows OS version (WinXPPro or Win2000 minimum) and so much
> more go into speeding an application, and if you are running less than
> ADT3.3 that does not help either. All the above assumes money is no object
> of course.
>
> You can get one heck of a speed demon in the US$2000-2500 range, but for
> ultra speed, twice as much is what you spend, but necessarily for twice
the
> speed gain.
>
> So, share with everyone how much you have to spend, and you can then get a
> more realistic recommendation on what is available for that amount of
money.
>
> --
> Dean Saadallah
> http://www.pendean.com
> LT Express utilities
> http://www.pendean.com/ltexpress
> Expanded Links Pages
> http://www.pendean.com/lt/links.htm
> --
>
> "kstill331" wrote in message
> news:B175208E0D8327A85183557A70B8835F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Does anyone know if the xeon version processor helps on speed for adt. I
> am
> > looking for faster creations of elevations when using that command. I
have
> a
> > large file w/ xrefs that takes 10 minutes or so to create elevations. I
> have
> > a p3 w/ 512 ram at present thank you
> >
> >
>
>

[cprettyman]

AutoCAD in general has limited support for dual processors - and ADT does not vary from the core autoCAD application in this aspect. What support there is for a second processor is mostly related to display. However, Windows is capable of managing the two processors, so that the operating system will be running on one, and autoCAD on the other. If you have any other active applications, or services running (and you always have some services running) windows will try to assign them to the two processors in a way that optimizes performance. So a second processor does help.

You don't mention the graphics card you were considering, but if you are working on Viz, you probbly wnat to put some of your budget there.

[Anonymous]

When dealing with ADT files that rely on programmatical means to
produce content (e.g., live elevations and sections), you will most
probably benefit from a dual Xeon platform over a single P4 system.
You will see huge improvements if you use ADT for 3D - because of the
multithreaded nature of display drivers, Windows 2000+ and AutoCAD,
it's definitely worth it over a single CPU system.

I imagine that the nature of Xrefs and such are more dependent on your
network bandwidth and I/O rather than being purely CPU bound. If you
work off of a network now, try working completely locally for a while
to see if the speed improves. If your network speed is terrible, make
sure you are working from a dedicated, switched 100MBps (minimum)
network connection. If you are still on a hub of any speed, that is a
huge bottleneck in getting work done.

If the network is in proper shape and the system is still slow, then I
would definitely go for a new system. The P4 platform is so muich
better than anything in the PIII range it's ridiculous, especially
from the chipset and memory support standpoint. That in and of itself
is a reason to upgrade to a newer platform.

Matt
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com

On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:26:21 -0800, "kstill331"
wrote:

>Does anyone know if the xeon version processor helps on speed for adt. I am
>looking for faster creations of elevations when using that command. I have a
>large file w/ xrefs that takes 10 minutes or so to create elevations. I have
>a p3 w/ 512 ram at present thank you
>

[Anonymous]

Dual Xeons are powerful, but in Megahertz to
Megahertz comparisons the AMD Athlon MPs have more "horsepower" for number
crunching. This is because of Intel has 1 pipeline for calculating Floating
Point numbers and AMD Athlons have 3 Pipelines for Floating Point numbers. I
know I sound like a commercial, but you can tell the performance difference when
it comes time to do complex extrusions with a high polygon count. Check out our
AutoComp, we also have an Intel version available with official quadro and SCSI
if you prefer. The AMD is just a better deal!

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AutoCAD
in general has limited support for dual processors - and ADT does not vary
from the core autoCAD application in this aspect. What support there is for a
second processor is mostly related to display. However, Windows is capable of
managing the two processors, so that the operating system will be running on
one, and autoCAD on the other. If you have any other active applications, or
services running (and you always have some services running) windows will try
to assign them to the two processors in a way that optimizes performance. So a
second processor does help.

You don't mention the graphics card you were considering, but if you are
working on Viz, you probbly wnat to put some of your budget
there.