OK, so I guess I understand what you are saying, however, that doesn't seem to be the case for me after some more testing.
Right now, I have I.D.S. 2014 installed along with C3D 2011-2013. This is the first year we are using IDS, basically because of the free upgrade. We are using a network license. After applying the new license file to our license manager I can access the following:
1. All I.D.S. 2014 software
2. c3d 2013
3. c3d 2011
I can't however gain access to c3d 2012... I get the "no valid license can be found" message.
It doesn't seem to matter whether we had the IDS or just C3D in previous years - except for 2012.
Nice utility. Looking forward to trying it.
Yes. 2011 is a bit different. These are the choices I have to download;
AutoCAD Raster Design English 2011 Win 32/64
AutoCAD English, Czech, Polish, Hungarian, Russian 2011 Win 32
AutoCAD English, Czech, Polish, Hungarian, Russian 2011 Win 64
AutoCAD English, French, Italian, German, Spanish, Portuguese 2011 Win 32
AutoCAD English, French, Italian, German, Spanish, Portuguese 2011 Win 64
AutoCAD English, Korean, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese 2011 Win 32
AutoCAD English, Korean, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese 2011 Win 64
AutoCAD English, Japanese 2011 Win 32
AutoCAD English, Japanese 2011 Win 64
AutoCAD English, French, Spanish, Portuguese 2011 Win 32
AutoCAD English, French, Spanish, Portuguese 2011 Win 64
AutoCAD Civil 3D English 2011 Win 32
AutoCAD Civil 3D English 2011 Win 64
AutoCAD Map 3D English 2011 Win 32
AutoCAD Map 3D English 2011 Win 64
Autodesk 3DS Max Design English 2011 Win 32/64
Autodesk Navisworks Simulate English, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, Simplified Chinese, Spanish 2011 Win 32
Autodesk Navisworks Simulate English, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, Simplified Chinese, Spanish 2011 Win 64
null English, French, German 2011 Win 32/64
I guess all I'd have to do is download C3D, RD, Map 3D, 3DS Max and Navisworks all 64 bit. Maybe AutoCAD English, Japanese 2011 Win 64 too. It looks a lot more daunting on the site. But I probably wont do any.
An email came in this morning. It confirms that you can revert to Civil 3D up until Jan. 15, 2014. For what looks like a minimal increase in the Subscription cost. You're going to get a lot more software. I think just Raster Design or 3ds Max would be worth the price. The yearly Subscription on Raster Design is about 5 times what the Infrastructure Design Suite extra cost will be.
I'm still suggesting that everyone discuss this with their reseller before deciding.
The other thing to remember is that it's not just about cost - you need to factor in training and learning to use the software that you get (some of which looks pretty complicated).
Yes. That has to be considered. But since we are getting software we didn't anticipate for what is a low cost per seat. You don't have to worry much about ROI.
We already have Raster Design so no training there. The rest I plan to pick up as I go and offer individual training as needed. I have to learn a bit about each program before I can decide if and where it will be integrated in to our workflow.
Of course other shops will have different needs and a different plan.
Funny. My reseller just asked for a copy of the email. He has clients that haven't gotten anything on this issue either and Autodesk doesn't copy their resellers on emails sent to clients. So he wanted to see what we were being told.
there is a major update regarding the suite migration for civil 3d and map 3d customers on subscription:
New deadline of July 15, 2013, to take action on opt in or opt out of $0 cost upgrade to Infrastructure Design Suite. This replaces the previously communicated deadline of January 15, 2014.
What is the purpose of having an option to "opt out" if Adesk considers you to have opted out if you don't opt in?
1.3 What options are now available to affected customers?
The changes in the program have been communicated via email to affected customers and state the following:
For customers with an English language product, changes include:
I just got off the phone with my reseller. He learned about this on Friday. The way he understands it is that EVERYONE who wants the upgrade must now Opt-in. This includes those who have already paid for the upgrade on Subscription. I wont repeat some of the words he used to describe this situation.
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