Is it OK to install C3D14 trial on C3D13 computer?

[autoMick]

Or is it abvisable? I'm getting close to subscription renewal time and I'm trying to decide whether it is worth keeping up with the C3D releases every year. One thing I wanted to try was to see if 2014 worked any better on the key things I need, but I don't want to stuff up my 2013 installation. Do you guys know if I can do a separate install safely?

Thanks

- Mick

[neilyj666]

don't think there would be a problem as I had 2013, 2012 and 2011 all installed at one time but perhaps it's more a case of seeing what has been broken this year

[ToddRogers-WPM]

I am telling you right now, DON'T do it.  I did. It messes up the 2013 install very badly.  

[neilyj666]

is it not fit for purpose ?

[ToddRogers-WPM]

No, not yet anyway.  The coordinate systems disappear, the tool palettes get jacked up and the reports in the reports manager get all messed up too.  Amongst other issues.  A repair didn’t fix it either, so I just uninstalled it and I am using 2014 exclusively.

[neilyj666]

hmmm interesting have you logged a support call

[ToddRogers-WPM]

You know it!!

[Jeff_M]

I have 2009-2014 all installed and have not seen any of the issues you describe, Todd. Did you Migrate settings or something?

[ToddRogers-WPM]

To be quite honest with you, I don't remember if I did or not.  Come to think about it, I think I did.  That would definitely cause this issue.

[Alfred.NESWADBA]

Hi,

>> The coordinate systems disappear

If it's command _ADESETCRDSYS to chose a coordinate system, then no, my (German) C3D2013 has not got effected by the install of C3D2014. Also the coordinate-system within the C3D drawing settings is ok.

I have 2010 and 2012 also installed, no problem (yet).

(or did you mean another command/option?)

>> the tool palettes get jacked up

My tool palettes look ok and tried some drag&drops, all fine.

>> and the reports in the reports manager get all messed up too

Tried a point-list, works fine, what report does not work or what messages do you get now?

(for question about migrating:)

>> To be quite honest with you, I don't remember if I did or not

(and the post after that)

>> A repair didn’t fix it either

I never ever do migration, if I have the chance I even remove this options by doing a user-defined installation and uncheck the migration option.

And if you have done a migration I guess a repair install alone will not help as it only repairs program and registry, but not the user-defined settings. That can be verified by resetting the AutoCAD-profile (from Windows start menu) or by creating a new user with a new Windows profile (at least also starting the secondary installer).

@OP

>> Is it OK to install C3D14 trial on C3D13 computer?

At least I won't do it as long as you are not quite sure that you will use it. Every installation of a software and uninstall makes the registry bigger and bigger, with every install and uninstall the workstation gets slower and slower.

I do my tests always with virtual machines (I prefer VmWare, but also MS has options for that), if this is defect I create a new one. And as long as it's not for performance-testing it is ok to run the tests in such an environment.

- alfred -

[BrianHailey]

I too have not seen any issue and I have every version of C3D back to 2009 installed on my system without any noticeable differences.

[autoMick]

Thanks for the replies guys, I'll try it out. Fingers crossed. Seems like migatating settings is something to avoid.

Regards

- Mick

[autoMick]

Yes, I'm looking for a couple of vital things to be working well. I was also informed by tech support months ago that surface transparency will once again be available in 2014. If it's not and they've broken other stuff I think that will be the end of my subscription days.

[autoMick]

Alfred, that's a smart approach regarding using virtual machines. I skimmed over your reply earlier as I thought it was in relation to Todd's issues. I was a bit confused about the versions of vmware though? I'm thinking of putting it on a stand alone Win7pro 64 bit computer. Which version do  you use?

Regards

- Mick

[Alfred.NESWADBA · Accepted solution]

Hi,

I (on my home-system) use VmWare-Player (>>>click<<<).

- alfred -

[autoMick]

Thanks Alfred - I'll start there.

Regards

- Mick

[autoMick]

Well at least 2D surface transparency is working again! Even better, I couldn't find any of my usual tools broken either.

But its virtually no change from 2013 that I can see. Fair enough that Autodesk concentrate on fixing bugs, but that doesn't justify a new version in my mind. Bug fixes should just be a service release.

[neilyj666]

indeed....