So, I'm a good little Autodesk-loyal subject that has had Subscription for years, annually paying my fees, and yes I do get my updates. Recently decided it was time to move to Building Design Suite 2013, because I had it, it had been out for some time, and surely the kinks have been worked out.
Several weeks into prelim design on a couple different projects using AutoCAD Architecture 2013, I'm ready to send DWG's to draftsman (residential) and consultants (commercial) and lo and behold, they can't SEE my drawings.
The closest, draftsman using AutoCAD Architecture 2009 until his new hardware shows up later this month so he can upgrade to 2013, can 'see' boxes instead of most walls and all doors and windows. Autodesk solution to our compatibility problem ... NONE. We're simply SOL. No work around, no "object enabler," sorry. But you can reinstall your 2009 product and start your projects over! And don't forget to renew your Subscription before it expires January XX.
So why am I paying for this Subscription when Autodesk's own products aren't compatible with each other???
You should know by now that ACA is not backward compatible. If you want the other drafter to see the 2013 drawings without boxes, set proxygraphics to 1. He still won't be able to edit the ACA objects without 2013.
The method of purchase of the software has nothing to do with the product fact: AutoCAD Architecture (not plain AutoCAD) never could and still does not save AEC content down to lower DWG formats.
2013 cannot save down to 2010 or lower format and keep AEC content intact for the lower versions.
2010 cannot save down to 2007 or lower format and keep AEC content intact for the lower versions.
2007 cannot save down to 2004 or lower format and keep AEC content intact for the lower versions.
2004 cannot save down to 2000 or lower format and keep AEC content intact for the lower versions.
It's been going on for 10 years now, sorry you had to find out so late in the game: it's never been a secret. Sadly there is no workaround, best is to recover archives that have not been hijacked by 2013 and use a lower version of ARCH (if you are on subscription I believe you can do so) or ask your partners to upgrade to 2013 (good luck with that, but it might help if they realize the significantly higher cost of upgrades that will kick in starting February 1 with all Autodesk software).
Actually, it's come down to timing. My draftsman has updated, software in hand, just waiting on new workstation strong enough to run it. Should be in 1-2 days past the project deadline.
And apparently it's always been timing, because we've never had this problem before. I have always waited months before upgrading either due to work load or learning curve. I guess I just didn't wait long enough this time.
I still think it's pretty sad that I'm limited in my hiring and business practices based on software compatibility. Really frustrated and seriously looking for a "simpler" solution.
Thanks to all the replied. Happy new year.
And I hope your draftsman's new computer isn't running Windows 8. Currently, Autodesk products are only compatible with Windows 7.
Of course they are. THANK YOU for the heads up. I'll check immediately, although I'm not sure much could be done to stop it. Pretty sure the OEM's are shipping 8 as the default these days.
I'll buy him 7 if that's the only hiccup left. Appreciate the knowledge.
Setting Proxygraphics to 1 allows those phantom boxes to display, as the previous poster mentioned. Exporting out, explodes AEC objects so you don't even have to deal with proxygraphics (if your consultants are REALLY cad-illiterate). E-transmit, is actually the best for sending to consultants, because you can specify which version (2010 or whatever) you wish for your consultants. Under E-transmit's "Modify Transmital Setup" options, you can specify under the 'File Format' menu which version, all the way back to autocad 2000, and you can also select if you'd like to explode AEC objects, or leave em intact as blocks.
E transmit is a great function, and ensures that your consultants get the whole bag - and don't have to repath xrefs either once they get your drawing file.
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