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*Muse, Dana
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How to reset layout origin

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08-19-2001 08:56 AM
Sometimes when opening old drawings, the origin in the paper space layout is
not at the bottom left corner of the paper margin. Is there anyway to
re-set the 0,0,0 origin point to the bottom left corner of the margin? Can
I "snap" onto the dashed margin-box somehow, or must I creat a new layout
and copy my old title block into it? This can be very tedious when working
with lots of old drawings.

Thanks,
Dana M.
*Furman, Paul
Message 2 of 11 (836 Views)

Re: How to reset layout origin

08-19-2001 11:22 AM in reply to: *Muse, Dana
Good question. The corner of the printable area margin is 0,0. The margin
depends on the printer/plotter. That's just the way it is. Move your title block
& everything to the 0,0,0 origin.

Dana Muse wrote:

> Sometimes when opening old drawings, the origin in the paper space layout is
> not at the bottom left corner of the paper margin. Is there anyway to
> re-set the 0,0,0 origin point to the bottom left corner of the margin? Can
> I "snap" onto the dashed margin-box somehow, or must I creat a new layout
> and copy my old title block into it? This can be very tedious when working
> with lots of old drawings.
>
> Thanks,
> Dana M.
*Muse, Dana
Message 3 of 11 (837 Views)

Re:

08-19-2001 10:08 PM in reply to: *Muse, Dana
My problem is that when I move the title block to 0,0, it is NOT at the
lower left corner of the margin. For some reason on some of the older
drawings the corner of the printable area margin is not 0,0. Sometimes, the
0,0 point is way off the page in the gray area of the layout. Only by
creating a new paper space layout can I reset the origin to the corner of
the paper margin.


"Paul Furman" wrote in message
news:3B807476.89A51FC5@edgehill.net...
Good question. The corner of the printable area margin is 0,0. The margin
depends on the printer/plotter. That's just the way it is. Move your title
block
& everything to the 0,0,0 origin.

Dana Muse wrote:

> Sometimes when opening old drawings, the origin in the paper space layout
is
> not at the bottom left corner of the paper margin. Is there anyway to
> re-set the 0,0,0 origin point to the bottom left corner of the margin?
Can
> I "snap" onto the dashed margin-box somehow, or must I creat a new layout
> and copy my old title block into it? This can be very tedious when
working
> with lots of old drawings.
>
> Thanks,
> Dana M.
*Furman, Paul
Message 4 of 11 (836 Views)

Re:

08-19-2001 10:44 PM in reply to: *Muse, Dana
I don't know, there is a place to set an offset for the origin that you could
check. You know about the BASE command? I never used it in paperspace but in
mspace, BASE moves the 0,0 for xreffing/inserting (probably not). Perhaps you
could post a sample in customer files, it's hard to imagine. Could they have set
the paperspace scale some funny way?

Dana Muse wrote:

> My problem is that when I move the title block to 0,0, it is NOT at the
> lower left corner of the margin. For some reason on some of the older
> drawings the corner of the printable area margin is not 0,0. Sometimes, the
> 0,0 point is way off the page in the gray area of the layout. Only by
> creating a new paper space layout can I reset the origin to the corner of
> the paper margin.
>
> "Paul Furman" wrote in message
> news:3B807476.89A51FC5@edgehill.net...
> Good question. The corner of the printable area margin is 0,0. The margin
> depends on the printer/plotter. That's just the way it is. Move your title
> block
> & everything to the 0,0,0 origin.
>
> Dana Muse wrote:
>
> > Sometimes when opening old drawings, the origin in the paper space layout
> is
> > not at the bottom left corner of the paper margin. Is there anyway to
> > re-set the 0,0,0 origin point to the bottom left corner of the margin?
> Can
> > I "snap" onto the dashed margin-box somehow, or must I creat a new layout
> > and copy my old title block into it? This can be very tedious when
> working
> > with lots of old drawings.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dana M.
*Muse, Dana
Message 5 of 11 (836 Views)

Re:

08-20-2001 12:31 AM in reply to: *Muse, Dana
Well, how about this if you want to try it yourself. To simulate my
problem, type the UCS command in the layout, and move the origin away from
the corner of the paper margin. Now, without just using the UNDO command,
try to re-set the origin to the corner of the paper margin. Other that just
zooming in and selecting a place near the corner, I can't figure out how to
reset it. There is no way to snap the origin back onto the margin of the
paper.


"Paul Furman" wrote in message
news:3B811434.38199EC3@edgehill.net...
I don't know, there is a place to set an offset for the origin that you
could
check. You know about the BASE command? I never used it in paperspace but in
mspace, BASE moves the 0,0 for xreffing/inserting (probably not). Perhaps
you
could post a sample in customer files, it's hard to imagine. Could they have
set
the paperspace scale some funny way?

Dana Muse wrote:

> My problem is that when I move the title block to 0,0, it is NOT at the
> lower left corner of the margin. For some reason on some of the older
> drawings the corner of the printable area margin is not 0,0. Sometimes,
the
> 0,0 point is way off the page in the gray area of the layout. Only by
> creating a new paper space layout can I reset the origin to the corner of
> the paper margin.
>
> "Paul Furman" wrote in message
> news:3B807476.89A51FC5@edgehill.net...
> Good question. The corner of the printable area margin is 0,0. The margin
> depends on the printer/plotter. That's just the way it is. Move your title
> block
> & everything to the 0,0,0 origin.
>
> Dana Muse wrote:
>
> > Sometimes when opening old drawings, the origin in the paper space
layout
> is
> > not at the bottom left corner of the paper margin. Is there anyway to
> > re-set the 0,0,0 origin point to the bottom left corner of the margin?
> Can
> > I "snap" onto the dashed margin-box somehow, or must I creat a new
layout
> > and copy my old title block into it? This can be very tedious when
> working
> > with lots of old drawings.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dana M.
*Furman, Paul
Message 6 of 11 (836 Views)

Re:

08-20-2001 12:48 AM in reply to: *Muse, Dana
Well, then just set the UCS back to World. Does that fix it?

Dana Muse wrote:

> Well, how about this if you want to try it yourself. To simulate my
> problem, type the UCS command in the layout, and move the origin away from
> the corner of the paper margin. Now, without just using the UNDO command,
> try to re-set the origin to the corner of the paper margin. Other that just
> zooming in and selecting a place near the corner, I can't figure out how to
> reset it. There is no way to snap the origin back onto the margin of the
> paper.
*Muse, Dana
Message 7 of 11 (836 Views)

Re:

08-20-2001 02:00 AM in reply to: *Muse, Dana
Shoot! I seemed like that would fix it, but I guess my problem is not the
same as just moving the UCS to somewhere else on the drawing. In my problem
drawings, trying to reset the UCS to World does not change anything. The
origin of the World UCS is still not on the corner of the margin. Is there
somewhere I can post a problem drawing for people to take a look at and
experiment with?


"Paul Furman" wrote in message
news:3B813131.B30030F6@edgehill.net...
Well, then just set the UCS back to World. Does that fix it?

Dana Muse wrote:

> Well, how about this if you want to try it yourself. To simulate my
> problem, type the UCS command in the layout, and move the origin away from
> the corner of the paper margin. Now, without just using the UNDO command,
> try to re-set the origin to the corner of the paper margin. Other that
just
> zooming in and selecting a place near the corner, I can't figure out how
to
> reset it. There is no way to snap the origin back onto the margin of the
> paper.
*Furman, Paul
Message 8 of 11 (836 Views)

Re:

08-20-2001 04:49 AM in reply to: *Muse, Dana
Yes,
news://discussion.autodesk.com/autodesk.autocad.customer-files

Dana Muse wrote:

> ...Is there
> somewhere I can post a problem drawing for people to take a look at and
> experiment with?
*White, Ian A.
Message 9 of 11 (836 Views)

Re:

08-20-2001 06:30 AM in reply to: *Muse, Dana
On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 06:08:07 -0700, "Dana Muse"
wrote:

>
>My problem is that when I move the title block to 0,0, it is NOT at the
>lower left corner of the margin. For some reason on some of the older
>drawings the corner of the printable area margin is not 0,0. Sometimes, the
>0,0 point is way off the page in the gray area of the layout. Only by
>creating a new paper space layout can I reset the origin to the corner of
>the paper margin.

Run the PAGESETUP command and in the dialog for origin offset it
should be 0,0 and not something else. The problem is that AutoCAD can
remember what was last used for plotting and this gets carried through
to the next page setup.

Regards,

--

Ian A. White, CPEng
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia

Ph: +61 418 203 229
Fax: +61 2 9622 0450
Home Page: www.wai.com.au
*Baker, Jon
Message 10 of 11 (837 Views)

Re:

08-20-2001 06:41 AM in reply to: *Muse, Dana
this happens to me from time to time.. what i do is in page set up i select
window.. then i type 0,0 and i pick something far out.. it then resets the
plotting origin..

--
A2Ki
SurvCad CES
Win98

Jonathan J. Baker
R&R Engineers-Surveyors, Inc.
Denver, Colorado
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"Dana Muse" wrote in message
news:4C6E5DA682745334A15907E0418D6C52@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
>
> Well, how about this if you want to try it yourself. To simulate my
> problem, type the UCS command in the layout, and move the origin away from
> the corner of the paper margin. Now, without just using the UNDO command,
> try to re-set the origin to the corner of the paper margin. Other that
just
> zooming in and selecting a place near the corner, I can't figure out how
to
> reset it. There is no way to snap the origin back onto the margin of the
> paper.
>
>
> "Paul Furman" wrote in message
> news:3B811434.38199EC3@edgehill.net...
> I don't know, there is a place to set an offset for the origin that you
> could
> check. You know about the BASE command? I never used it in paperspace but
in
> mspace, BASE moves the 0,0 for xreffing/inserting (probably not). Perhaps
> you
> could post a sample in customer files, it's hard to imagine. Could they
have
> set
> the paperspace scale some funny way?
>
> Dana Muse wrote:
>
> > My problem is that when I move the title block to 0,0, it is NOT at the
> > lower left corner of the margin. For some reason on some of the older
> > drawings the corner of the printable area margin is not 0,0. Sometimes,
> the
> > 0,0 point is way off the page in the gray area of the layout. Only by
> > creating a new paper space layout can I reset the origin to the corner
of
> > the paper margin.
> >
> > "Paul Furman" wrote in message
> > news:3B807476.89A51FC5@edgehill.net...
> > Good question. The corner of the printable area margin is 0,0. The
margin
> > depends on the printer/plotter. That's just the way it is. Move your
title
> > block
> > & everything to the 0,0,0 origin.
> >
> > Dana Muse wrote:
> >
> > > Sometimes when opening old drawings, the origin in the paper space
> layout
> > is
> > > not at the bottom left corner of the paper margin. Is there anyway to
> > > re-set the 0,0,0 origin point to the bottom left corner of the margin?
> > Can
> > > I "snap" onto the dashed margin-box somehow, or must I creat a new
> layout
> > > and copy my old title block into it? This can be very tedious when
> > working
> > > with lots of old drawings.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dana M.
>
>
>

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