Rework on AEC Doors Windows Stairs etc.

[recker71]

I think that AEC Objects deserve some big rework.

We'd love to use them but they are definitely way too simple. Even don't have important details like handles...

[Ehsan.Sarahian]

Use MCG for AEC pack like : http://www.tresd1.com.br/noticia/64350

Upgrade old AEC pack and add new one like cabine, floor, roof and etc.

[recker71]

Hi,

is there an english description also available?

[recker71]

And also the Stairs i.e quater-turn or half-turn

[passariello]

I disagree...

AEC are good tools.

Do u want an handle in a door?.... use an attach controller and game is done....

[recker71]

I didn't say they are useless - i said they need improvement. Quater-turn or Half-turn Stairs aren't done with just attaching a little handle on a AEC....

[leochester]

Totally agree. Better AEC tools are long, long overdue.  Its about time that particular industry received some love from AD inside of 3dsMax. I would like much expanded door,window,stair tools & also a railing took - and add in some elevator/escalator tools too. A roof builder too would be great. 

[leochester]

also the wall tool could be way, way better. & why not include a flooring tool. How about integrating some built in finishes- for example, it would be great to have a wall tool that also allowed you to specify some geometry based tiling. I'm a huge fan of CG-Source "Floor Generator" - we use it all the time for floors, and also for walls. Would love to see something like that added to the AEC walls (which as they currently stand i never use based on past experiences)

[Tupaia]

Ideally, they should become BIM objects, complying to the standards.

[RGhost77]

I hope AEC objects will be removed because 3ds max not CAD add-on.  Corresponding with that idea https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-ideas/3dsmax-marketing-should-show-other-stuff-than-architect... 3ds max must go away from architectural addiction.

[Tupaia]

3ds Max is a general-purpose 3d application. At least, Autodesk never claimed it to be a 'visualization tool', and neither an 'effects tool'.

Which is a good thing!

Both fractions - 'effecties' and 'visualizies' - need to learn to live together harmoniously. ; }

That means, we should not pull too many ropes on who gets his next feature.

I'm more the 'visualizie' (studying architecture), but not only.

In fact, I never used these AEC objects. They feel a bit crappy.

But since they exist - either remove them, or update them to something really usable -> BIM objects (which I need and use in CAD programs).

[recker71]

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So if they never claimed to be a "visualization tool" i'm wondering why there was the 3ds Max Architectual Design Edition

[Tupaia]

Good point... however, it was called "3ds Max Design", and the difference to the other version was (confusingly) minor. It's retired anyway now.

What I meant is, it was of course never a 'pure' architectural creation and visualization tool (like maybe Sketchup), but a general purpose 3d app, with animation in mind right from the start also.

Why it gained this good foothold in the visualization realm could be due to it's good spline-to-polygon workflow, and of course VRay.

[recker71]

Sure - it was always a little bit strange which way 3ds max will go...serving 2 masters isn't healthy.

But i got the feeling i know the AEC Tools since 3D Studio Viz R3 and they didn't changed since then...and this is the point: autodesk should leave 'em or put them up-to-date

[Tupaia]

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@recker71wrote:

autodesk should leave 'em or put them up-to-date

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You say it! 3ds Max is so full of legacy stuff... Long and complicated story. Backwards compatibility and such.

In the case of those AEC objects, I'd say it would be the cleanest solution if Max became a BIM/IFC application - in some way.

Related wish

Thing is, Autodesk already has a big fat BIM solution - Revit.

Should Max also be able to edit and export BIM objects, or should it only be able to import BIM files (hopefully not only Revit, which it already supports) for rendering or animation?