Graphics Cards Help

Graphics Cards Help

Jaden.MPG
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Graphics Cards Help

Jaden.MPG
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Hi.

 

First let me name my specs.

 

i7 2600k Processor

16GB Ram

2 x Qaudro 4000

 

 

Right!...

This is going to sound really dumb... Maybe its my lack of knowledge I dunno. But iv been using 3DS Max since 2010

and from day one this software has been my most favourite to use but the most annoying. It constantly crashes and I cant seem to ever finnish a project because as soon as I go into depth with 3DS Max suddenly my system packs up and then its Bound box city and slow view port and this happens just after less than 500,000 polygons if I try to do anything with a million polygons forget it. I try to make large scale scenes but small in comparison to what Hollywood studios would try and do like a simple race track with buildings and details like street furniture and stuff like that is proving very difficult for my setup. What confuses me is that the Qaudro 4000 is highly recommended amongst other cards  for 3DS max. But its really ****, it cant handle much geometry and has very little Ram so why is it even on the list of cards recommended for Max  because if all you want to do is play with primitives and practice on small scale scenes like the very basic of all basics like when one first starts to animate a cube or sphere then any old card will do for the basic stuff so why is the qaudro series still being offered to people as a professional card when its really crap, I have 2 so I can say this. its really whack the GPU is ridiculously slow it makes no sense to even use it for GPU so why offer it to people because I'm still waiting for this card to prove to me it was worth getting let alone the heaps of cash it took to buy the silly things. I need to know because iv had 2 of these cards for yrs , bought them brand new and back then it cost me £800 each and till this day I always felt like I wasted my money because I never really felt the benefits from having these two expensive cards.

Then there's this list of recommended graphics cards for 3DS max and the best cards are not on the list yet the best cards still work with 3DS max the recommended cards still crash and still give slow viewport and bounding boxes for geometry if your card ram runs low on mem its all pretty much sounding like a con to me. unless you go for broke and buy the most expensive card on the market surely one cant go wrong there..... or can you? has anyone experienced problems with the Qaudro M6000 for eg. if so what's going on. I cant work without having to constantly be dealing with compatibility issues and driver issues and allsorts of plugin issues when it comes to 3DS Max. it would be nice to see 3DS Max as stable as Adobe products at the moment I'm seriously thinking of going over to maxthon and use the Cinema 4D it seems a lot more stable to use compared to 3DS |Max , iv been a cg artists for 7 yrs and iv spent 6 of those yrs constantly dealing with issues with Max, why I'm still using it .... I really don't know maybe its because I'm use to it and know my way around the interface but in 7yrs I don't have much of a portfolio to show for it just a huge hard drive of unfinished projects iv started but cant render of do much with ...see this is what's depressing me at the mo. How do I fix this and establish a really smooth workflow because at the moment I just feel like packing it all in and maybe try goat herding.

 

I just want a Trouble free setup so I can just concentrate on creating... all this who-rar-rah is taking the fun out of this line of work iv chosen for myself. Just bought the titan not the X because  Autodesk didn't recommend it ...yet people use it and get better results than what I can get from the cards I have and with the titans  I'm still getting bounding boxes like wtf... is it this stupid i7 or wot ? I need to know. Can anyone help me. for example

i7 or dual processors ? 

Autodesk recommended or the best card for speed?

ecc ram or gaming ram ?

is i7 a good processor for Max ...like does it make a difference..?

or will my graphics cards improve with xeons instead of i7, how much geometry can a Qaudro 4000 handle in the viewport?

 

Open CL what is that and why doesn't it work iv tried with Vray Rt and it doesn't work not with the Qaudro or the Titan iv tried you wait for ages for the active shade screen to show something and after the long wait ....nothing happens...black screen.... None of this **** is making any sense to me yet I'm a very skilled CG Artist but cant prove it.... LOL

 

HELP

 

 

 

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Alfred.DeFlaminis
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Hello @Jaden.MPG and welcome to the community,

 

Very descriptive post, thank you for detailing all that for me.  Which version of Max are you having trouble with currently?  (you'd mentioned 2010 but it wasn't clear if that's the one your having issues with.) 

 

I use very cheap cards for Max, because graphics cards seem to burn out faster for me than any other part.  (Even with extra cooling.)  So it can work with cheaper cards.  

 

Honestly this sounds like you have a part in your system which is bogging everything else down.  Maybe a failing hard drive, maybe bad drivers, maybe your firmware is out of date.  This is almost an impossible task to diagnose without access to the machine.  (Which is why nobody responded, hard to help here.)  

 

What happens if you take out one of those quadros?  Have you updated the drivers on the quadros or your other hardware recently?  Which motherboard are you using?  Honestly my best advice is to take your computer to a computer shop (not geek squad for the love of all things holy) and see if they can identify what is happening.  You may be having issues with real time virus scanning, some kind of security software, or maybe your Windows installation has just gone bad.  With that hardware, 500k polys should be no sweat.  I'd say maybe those quadros are a bit low on RAM but you said you have the same problem with your Titan.  Hmm.  Something wrong in the system, something.  

 

I've seen DVD drives cause problems before because they weren't fully compatible after I upgraded Windows.  This is really tricky to diagnose.  Is this the same installation of Windows for all these years?

 

Best Regards,

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Alfred.DeFlaminis
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Hello @Jaden.MPG,

 

I just wanted to follow up here, any progress on this issue?

Best Regards,

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