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[Anonymous]

What is the best pc computer for 3d max mental ray and Vray ,Auto Cad , Rivet ,Adobe.C4d and unreal engine ..

[Anonymous]

Again though, I see your point, however, if there wasn't such emphasis on
essentially forcing people to buy workstation GPUs then gaming GPUs would
be better optimized for Autodesk applications, and with the shear power
that gaming GPUs have they would smoke any workstation card you could put
against it.

If I'm going to be honest Max runs like crap on my AMD Fury and the power
my GPU has is right there with the 980ti and nearly 1070, but this is only
because Autodesk refuses to optimize their software for those cards. Sort
of like how Intel runs better in Adobe.

These workstation GPUs are just insanely expensive, a $1000 gaming GPU if
Autodesk would optimize their software to them would run 2-3x better than
any Quadro or FirePro put up against it, just look at the specifications on
the GPUs and compare them, there is clearly a optimization issue

[schrenk]

A quadro GPU is wasted money. Well it's not if you need a certified workstation for solidworks, FE analysis or something like that, but when it comes to content creation (adobe, unity, 3dsmax) it's just an expensive pile of dung. Better get a 1080ti for that money or at least an 1060 6GB one.

Ryzen CPUs: Nice if you're rendering 24/7. Not nice if you are actually working on the machine because then you need some heavy GHz-Rates not only a large number of cores. When you're once working on a 5GHz 8700K you know what I'm talking about.

just my 50cent

[Anonymous]

I read that the 8700k at 5ghz is just a tad better or the same as the 1800x
in most applications, because of the two extra cores and threads.

[dgorsman]

Quadro and AMD-equivalent do indeed have several niches.

The first is for GPU-compute functions; one of the better examples of this is one of the last updates to MentalRay before it was discontinued.  There were separate renderers for those with Quadro/Tesla and those without, as the former were capable of doing some of the math involved.  There's also a few FEA tools out there but on the whole not a lot of desktop programs make use of this.

The second is for full OpenGL support.  This is one of the least used features now due to the proliferation of DirectX.  The strict controls on OpenGL makes it easier to certify programs with, and is one of the main reasons they're tested with programs like 3DSMAX (the other being that's what you get when you order from the big-box suppliers like Dell and HP).

The third is hardware capability, at least on the higher end cards.  The most capable (and *very* expensive) workstation cards have insane amounts of VRAM which are not available to the commercial-grade cards, even the vaunted GTX 1080 Ti.  If you're doing GPU-compute or rendering capability and you don't have enough VRAM for the task at hand that's it - there is no "borrowing" from system RAM to make up the shortfall.  There's a few steps being taken now but it will be a while before it's in the mainstream.

Compatibility with programs like 3DSMAX is more about the generation of the card and driver version than whether it's a "gaming" or "workstation" card.  Newer releases are using features found in newer versions of DirectX, so if an older card doesn't fully support those features even with updated drivers it doesn't matter how powerful it was back in the day.  Switching to a workstation card can bypass some of those problems, especially if you also switch to OpenGL for the display.

[Isaac_Zuniga]

@dgorsman I couldn't have said it better. Nice thorough explanation. 🙂

[Isaac_Zuniga]

When doing graphic design, it's best to have a cpu with more cores rather than a few cores and a high clock speed.

A quad-core overclocked at 5ghz may be suitable for gaming, but when it comes to 3d rendering, it will surely suffer. Compare that to a 2.6ghz 14-core cpu, and things speed up for graphical computations. Gaming will not be super "lightning fast", performance wise, like the overclocked 5ghz quad-core was. Mainly because games don't usually use more than 4 cores.

I think the golden mean can be applied here, pay for what you can afford, because even then, an overclocked chip is not bad, just make sure it has more cores so you can really see the performance. 🙂

[Anonymous]

I never looked into this, but are 2 GPUs beneficial in Max?

I bought a AMD Vega Frontier the other day, then canceled the order because I got buyers remorse from that $850 price...

My AMD Fury is a computational beast, and most of my limitations with it, actually all of them come from VRAM, if I could use 8gb HBM instead of the 4 I have and combine the two I would be set for a long time. Also I can pickup a used one for $250

[Strohkopf]

I hope this is still active 🙂

My biggest Problem is the Software i use.

And i read in most places that UE4 works better with gaming cards (makes sence, because u develop games with it xD)

Autocad -> quadro

Photoshop -> gtx

3ds Max -> quadro

Unreal Engine -> gtx

Substance Painter - ???

so what should i buy? quadro or gtx?

The question is not how good does the one perform in some tasks, but more how BAD does for example Quadro perform in Unreal Engine or Photoshop. 

[Isaac_Zuniga]

@Strohkopf

I think a better question to ask yourself is this: "What do I mainly work on my computer?"

For me, I'm a graphics designer, therefore, I got a Quadro P2000. Yes, I could have gotten a GTX 1080-whatever model is the latest, but I'm not a gamer. Well, I do play games, but not enough for it to justify me getting a gaming card over a graphics design card.

If you are mainly a graphics designer, Photoshop, After Effects, 3ds Max, Maya, C4D, Modo (etc...), then I'd say for you to get a quadro card. It can still game, though you won't get over 9,000 fps at 4K. However, if you are a gamer, and you play games a lot more than you do graphic design stuff, then I would get a GTX card.

The flipside is that 3ds Max, Maya, Modo, and C4D, are not "certified" to work with gaming cards. They will work, but there may be stability/reliability/performance issues. I once tried a GTX 980Ti with Modo, and it failed to render the viewports at all. However, when I swapped it out for a Quadro K620, all was fine and Modo functioned properly. There was another instance where I used the same card on 3ds Max. I was using the same GTX 980Ti card and I was working with a model with excess of 4 million polygons. The framerate was awful, it chugged along while GPU-Z was reporting a large load on the video card. I did the same thing and swapped the card out for my Quadro K620. The same project file and model, worked flawlessly. Frame rates were super smooth and GPU-Z reported the load on the card was substantially lower than that of the GTX 980Ti. The performance with the K620 Quadro was much superior than that of the GTX 980Ti. (This was my experience, I cannot speak for others, but just as a heads up.)

A better way of putting this is that you may want to look at reliability vs. cost. How much do you need reliability? For me, I'd like fluid frame rates in my 3d programs, otherwise I won't be able to get much done, especially if there's compatibility issues with the program and my video card.

(By the way, I have a Quadro P2000, while I don't play games much, I'm still able to play games on my 4k monitor at medium to high settings with very good frame rates.)

[Anonymous]

Hello! I'm an architecture student and I'm looking forward to buying a desktop that could help me doing my projects. I already have a configuration, but I wanted to ask you if this is sufficient to support 3ds max and any rendering and modelling programs. Also, I'd like to ask you if there's anything on the list of components I can go less than specified. 

Thank you in advance! 

PC Gaming System ASUS ROG Strix GL12CM-RO004D, Intel Core i7-8700 to 4.6GHz, 32GB, HDD 1TB + SSD 256GB, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB, Free Dos

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@irishman_team_kilber wrote:

the best computer is the one you can afford and the price range you have to spend and also depends if you want a desktop or a laptop computer. please don't say "money is no object" because if we find you a computer then you say that will be to expensive then money is an object.

please give a price range and what type of computer you want

MR is not used in max anymore and nvidia have discontinued it

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