3ds max vieport object edges bug

[maryd1]

 

Hey everyone, I keep having the following issue with 3ds max: (see Image I updated my drivers B) prune cleaned my scene C) I made a new scene and merged my old model Nothing worked the problem pops up again after a few clicks. 

[RobH2]

Can you give a hint as to what the problem is?

[maryd75AKCKN]

Hello,  sorry for the late reply autodesk is really bad about notifing about replies. 

So image you are getting a glitched edged view without having activated the edges visibility (f4 in windows). That results in a very messy looking viewport and buggy object snap. It usually doesn't occur often in one scene but for some reason it keeps happening and I haven't imported any models in this scene everything is modeled from scratch by me. 

[darawork]

Hi,

Sometimes this happens when one corner of the mesh is slightly lower than the rest, or stuff is modelled far away from the origin point (0,0,0). Other times I get unknown degradation of the model that only goes away by turning on viewport clipping and moving the bottom slider slightly up.

Would it be possible to upload the model, or the troubsome section of it only, as a zipped Max file?
I'll take a look and see if it happens here. If it happens to both of us, then I'll try to figure out why.

Regards,

[maryd75AKCKN]

ah sorry for the late reply, the file was at my works pc. I am not attaching any textures because honestly we havent expanded on the design of the building yet.

The weirdest part is that I have more complex files that work fine.

[Diffus3d]

I don't see that happening in the scene when I look into it, but may I have the wrong object.  Which object is it?  Since many poly objects here have more than 4 sides it may be related to that.  If you take a problem object and put a subdivide modifier on it then put the value up very high (so it uses few polys as possible), does the problem go away?

Best Regards,

[wernienst]

IMHO, it's the way Max (or more exactly, the Nitrious driver) is drawing edges in the viewports. See this part of your file (I have isolated it and activated Display Selected With Edged Faces).

Now, if you zoom in, some edges suddenly disappear!

The reason is that you actually do not zoom in but move the camera towards the object. And due to the limited precision of the viewport, the distances of these edges are becoming greater than the polygons in front of them. It's obvious when activating See-Through.

Under normal circumstances, you wouldn't notice this. But you're using a great focal length (small Field-of-View in Max' viewport terms) in your file.
That's my explanation. But I am not an expert.

[maryd75AKCKN]

This not how the model should look.....And I ve been using the default viewport settings for hundreds of scenes with no issue. (and no adjusting clipping doesnt fix it)

[RobH2]

@maryd75AKCKN

Thanks for uploading the file. I had a look at it and don't see any issues. I'm not sure it's related to the render engine as I have V-Ray and not Corona. But as a diagnostics, what happens if you set your renderer to Arnold and put on a basic Arnold claylike material or something? Do you still see the short edges appearing?

I'm thinking it's a video driver issue. What video card do you have? Have you completely uninstalled the video drivers and then reinstalled them, a clean install I mean?  Also, have you  tried installing an older release of your video card driver, say, two releases back?

I have an RTX 4090 and last fall they released a new driver. It caused all kinds of issues for me in Max and in multiple programs with screen draws. I uninstalled it completely and then reinstalled the older driver and all looked fine. Then I waited for two more driver released to occur and installed the new latest one, skipping over two of them. Now the new driver is good and I don't have issues. 

[maryd75AKCKN]

I am starting to think its a graphics card issue as well. 

The pc I am using has the following specs: 

processor: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core Processor 3.80 GHz

Ram:32

Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060

I guess I ll try re installing the nvidia drivers

[Diffus3d]

Looks fine to me with a 3070 rtx.  But... I don't know if I have the same part selected.  Maybe it's a problem with a certain piece of geometry. 

 Best Regards,

[maryd75AKCKN]

hello, its been a few days, I did my best to clean and update my drivers the scene seems to behave for now.