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scale and insert

k005 — Mon, 01 Nov 2021 12:45:54 GMT

Hi All!

How can I scale the column detail in the example and place it in the drawing on the right.

scale factor here: 0.4

Thanks in advance for the help friend.

We're going to add a change of direction to this...

left-right-down-up

The holding point should be in the center. At the point where we will place it, it should be from the center again. in that part should ask : left ? to the right? down? above?

algorithm example

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0- Select the big column
1- Enter the rate. < remember >
2- Small column center ? (calculating...)
3- Left-right-down-up <remember>
4- OK.

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Re: scale and insert

ВeekeeCZ — Mon, 01 Nov 2021 10:58:52 GMT

copybase

pasteclip

0.4

When pasting, type S for Scale.

You should post your question HERE There will help you to learn AutoCAD.

Edit: fixed by Kent's remark. Thanks.

Re: scale and insert

Kent1Cooper — Mon, 01 Nov 2021 10:29:51 GMT

@ВeekeeCZ wrote:

....

clipbase

....

[I think you mean PASTECLIP.]

Re: scale and insert

k005 — Mon, 01 Nov 2021 12:34:35 GMT

@ВeekeeCZ

I think you replied in the wrong place.

When you look at it from there, read the message, do you think I'm new to the forum?

.* The subject is in the right place.

Re: scale and insert

ВeekeeCZ — Mon, 01 Nov 2021 13:12:05 GMT

I was assuming from the phrasing of your question that you're trying to do a process that could be done by built-in commands quite easily. So I've pointed you to the general forums where could advise you on some tips and tricks that you might not know.

Re: scale and insert

k005 — Mon, 01 Nov 2021 13:08:30 GMT

I also updated the question, made additions. I wrote hastily, I was at the Construction Site. no problem. 😉

Re: scale and insert

Kent1Cooper — Mon, 01 Nov 2021 13:44:34 GMT

@k005 wrote:

....

left-right-down-up

The holding point should be in the center. At the point where we will place it, it should be from the center again. in that part should ask : left ? to the right? down? above?

algorithm example

----------------------------

0- Select the big column
1- Enter the rate. < remember >
2- Small column center ? (calculating...)
3- Left-right-down-up <remember>
4- OK.

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1. Can you make the column a Block, to simplify the operation?

2. By "center" do you really mean the center of the column, and not the intersection of the column lines?

3. By "rate" do you mean scale factor?

4. The Text elements are copied but not scaled the way the column elements are, and their positional relationship to the column and also to each other is different in the "after" situation. Is what you are asking about only for the column elements, or should the Text parts be included, with different calculations about location for those?

5. It seems to me that left-right-up-down is not one choice, but needs a combination -- upper-left, lower-left, upper-right or lower-right, that is, a quadrant relative to the column-line intersection, rather than a single direction. Or am I misunderstanding the intent. Can you post a sample drawing showing the results of different choices?

Re: scale and insert

k005 — Mon, 01 Nov 2021 14:01:50 GMT

2- Yes column center.

3- Yes scale factor.

4-only column items, that is, the first object group we chose.
There are already columns and texts. their aspects are not important. But the column direction must be exactly the same.

5- So of course it can. I just outlined the algorithm. The most practical method is my acceptance.

Re: scale and insert

hak_vz — Mon, 01 Nov 2021 14:09:37 GMT

@k005

Why don't you create scaled block (or blocks) of column entities with adequately positioned text and copy it around you drawing with changing base point to either column corner?

Re: scale and insert

Kent1Cooper — Mon, 01 Nov 2021 14:35:09 GMT

@k005 wrote:

.... But the column direction must be exactly the same. ....

Your RESULT-2 violates that, so something is incomplete about your description.

Also, does the cyan rectangle at bottom right here already exist when you do this? So should the column elements be copied without the perimeter rectangle?

And in addition to the perimeter being a different color, are the reinforcing parts supposed to be a different color in the result than in the source?

Would the intersection of the blue column lines be the location the User would select for placing the scaled-down copy? [See the suggestion to use Blocks with insertion points at corners.]

[Not really essential, but.... Where are the reinforcing elements coming from? Each vertical bar cut through is made up of about 220 independent Lines, and each 90° turn of about 24 Lines. Can you get them using Solid Hatch patterns or Donut Polylines for the verticals, and Filleted Polylines for the in-plan ones, and so on? It will greatly reduce the memory consumed, in addition to making "cleaner" plots.]

Re: scale and insert

k005 — Mon, 01 Nov 2021 14:57:26 GMT

@hak_vz

It could also be a block. The situation here is that the aspects of the details are given differently. I want to edit them, automatically translate and place them

Re: scale and insert

k005 — Mon, 01 Nov 2021 15:05:25 GMT

Yes it will be returned... in result-2

Colors don't matter either... for now.

only change of direction and proportion with scale matter. This is how we will paste it.

that is, I will reduce the column I took from the detail sheet by giving scale and place it on the same direction.

Re: scale and insert

Kent1Cooper — Mon, 01 Nov 2021 16:44:26 GMT

@k005 wrote:

.... I will reduce the column I took from the detail sheet by giving scale and place it on the same direction.

Then I think you're going about it in the wrong way. You should use Layouts and Viewports, and use different scales in the Viewports to look at the same drawn columns, which should always be drawn once, in Model Space at actual size. Drawing something at two different model-space sizes for appearance in drawings/details at different scales can only lead to problems. And whatever your drawing unit represents, I assume you do not specify columns to be built at sizes such as 0.6255 x 3.7465 [meters?].

Re: scale and insert

k005 — Mon, 01 Nov 2021 16:49:38 GMT

No . not that way.

like this ;
Detail drawings are on the same dwg sheet. only the scale is different. Drawings-details are in the same file. Just like the example I sent you.

Re: scale and insert

Kent1Cooper — Mon, 01 Nov 2021 20:26:33 GMT

@k005 wrote:

No . not that way.

like this ;
Detail drawings are on the same dwg sheet. only the scale is different. Drawings-details are in the same file. Just like the example I sent you.

Then I think that's a wrong-enough way to do it that I'm not interested. Maybe someone else is willing to step in and help.

Re: scale and insert

k005 — Tue, 02 Nov 2021 04:47:19 GMT

Re: scale and insert

k005 — Wed, 17 Nov 2021 18:24:06 GMT

(defun c:OI () (prompt "Açılı ve ölçekli yapıştır!") (setvar "cmdecho" 0) (if (= aci nil)(setq aci 0)) (setq aci_t (getreal (strcat "\nAçıyı Giriniz <" (rtos aci 2 2)"> : "))) (if (= aci_t nil)(setq aci_t aci)) (setq aci aci_t) (if (= oran nil)(setq oran 0.4)) (setq oran_t (getreal (strcat "\nÖlçek Oranını Giriniz <" (rtos oran 2 2)"> : "))) (if (= oran_t nil)(setq oran_t oran)) (setq oran oran_t) (Setq dd (command ".PASTECLIP" "s" oran "R" aci )) (setvar "cmdecho" 1) (princ) ) (defun c:oı() (c:OI))

This is how I solved the issue...